#DeltaChat is a great decentralised 🇪🇺 messenger alternative to #WhatsApp and #Signal. @delta
The onboarding of a new user is ridiculously easy. Suitable for messaging w friends and family as well as security conscious users.
Just wanted to mention that. 🙂
@leanderlindahl
Avoid using DeltaChat if you do not wish to voluntarily participate in a surveillance programme operated by the Five Eyes (Plus). 😉
DeltaChat discloses a lot of metadata and is, of course, not quantum cryptography-secure. 🫣
When you have an issue with Signal's centralised approach, you would be better off checking out SimpleX:
https://simplex.chat/docs/simplex.html
https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplexmq/blob/stable/protocol/overview-tjr.md#threat-model
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#DeltaChat #WhatsApp #Signal #DigitalSovereignty #goeuropean #bestpractice #threatmodel
Forward secrecy und post-quatum resistant encryption are on the way and anounced for coming this year !!!
So, there is no reason to avoid Delta Chat ! 😉
@olliausstuhr
> Can I still receive or send messages without end-to-end encryption?
> If you instead use a classic email server, you can send and receive messages with or without end-to-end encryption. Messages lacking end-to-end encryption are marked with an email icon .
Does not look like trustable E2EE for me. Info from die DeltaChat's FAQ.
Let's see how it goes first before promoting it please.
@jack that you can read your inbox in Delta Chat is an extra feature, not so easy to do anyways because most email providers make it really hard to use 3rd party clients
the normal workflow is to use the instant onboarding which is anonymous and has practically zero metadata (and nearing zero as we talk, stay tuned)
the question is why to use simplex? Delta Chat is much better:
https://mastodon.social/@adbenitez/116012514338494570
@adbenitez
However, how can DeltaChat be superior to SimpleX if it does not eliminate the need for one ID per user, as SimpleX does?
Your DC relay server can log your IP address and link it to your ID, correct? With SimpleX, you must not place blind trust in the servers operators.
If they log is not that kind of an issue.
The zero meta data feels like marketing talk to me. Can you elaborate on that?
How can it be zero exactly?
@jack nope, with Delta Chat you don't have one ID per user, your ID is your key that is not exposed to server, relays are used only for store and forward of encrypted blobs you can have several of them and rotate them
about zero, it is not zero I said close to zero, ofc there is always some "metadata" in any system question is how useful is that metadata, it all depends on threat models
@adbenitez
> depends on threat models
Do you even have a threat model? I can not find it on the website.
> you can have several of them and rotate them
You mean a user can have several email addresses and can rotate then? Still an ID for me. Or does this rotation happens automatically after each send message?
That would be awesome. :)
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