"Schumer needs to get the hell out": House Democrats fume over DHS funding talks

https://lemmy.world/post/42708963

"Schumer needs to get the hell out": House Democrats fume over DHS funding talks - Lemmy.World

Well sounds like the Democratic leadership to aggressively court disgruntled voters and listening and addressing their concerns is off to a great start with this.

The DNC is controlled opposition and the fact that centrists are in denial about it puts all of us in great peril.
Tinfoil hat conspiracy theory right there.
I dunno, even if they aren’t, they are so ineffective that they kinda are doing that anyway
When you’ve got one side that mostly follows the rules and one side that mostly cheats, the side that cheats will usually win.
Most of the Dems aren’t really trying to follow rules or not tho. They’re just kinda sitting there watching it all happen.
Realistically what do they have the power to do that they aren’t doing? Republicans have control of the House, Senate, Judiciary and 27 state governorships.
No facts or historical perspective here, only “both sides same” on .world

Realistically what do they have the power to do that they aren’t doing?

Off the top of my head: Not support the funding of the Gestapo. That would be an excellent place to start.

Okay, let’s say they stand their ground and say “zero DHS funding”. They don’t have the votes to stop it and it gets funded anyway, right?

BUT, if they can negotiate to give something to peel off a few Republican votes in exchange for things like investigations into the killings of Good and Pretti, body cams on ICE, and no face masks for ICE? Isn’t that better than nothing?

Disagree all you want about it tactically, but at least you recognize the logic, right?

If Republicans have the votes without democrats they’re not going to negotiate concessions anyway.
If you can strip away a handful of Republican votes by appealing to their morals or negotiating over ancillary matters (we will support your unrelated pet project if you vote with us).