inclementimmigrant"Schumer needs to get the hell out": House Democrats fume over DHS funding talks
The DNC is controlled opposition and the fact that centrists are in denial about it puts all of us in great peril.
Tinfoil hat conspiracy theory right there.
I dunno, even if they aren’t, they are so ineffective that they kinda are doing that anyway
When you’ve got one side that mostly follows the rules and one side that mostly cheats, the side that cheats will usually win.
Most of the Dems aren’t really trying to follow rules or not tho. They’re just kinda sitting there watching it all happen.
Realistically what do they have the power to do that they aren’t doing? Republicans have control of the House, Senate, Judiciary and 27 state governorships.
CileTheSaneRealistically what do they have the power to do that they aren’t doing?
Off the top of my head: Not support the funding of the Gestapo. That would be an excellent place to start.
Okay, let’s say they stand their ground and say “zero DHS funding”. They don’t have the votes to stop it and it gets funded anyway, right?
BUT, if they can negotiate to give something to peel off a few Republican votes in exchange for things like investigations into the killings of Good and Pretti, body cams on ICE, and no face masks for ICE? Isn’t that better than nothing?
Disagree all you want about it tactically, but at least you recognize the logic, right?
If Republicans have the votes without democrats they’re not going to negotiate concessions anyway.
If you can strip away a handful of Republican votes by appealing to their morals or negotiating over ancillary matters (we will support your unrelated pet project if you vote with us).
But the side that mostly follows the rules is also just handing the cheating side unearned Victoria over and over again.
Scummer is rolling over on his already shitty appeasement offer.
Shumer’s perspective is to try and get what he realistically can get. He could stand his ground and say “defund ICE” but it would have 0% chance of success. He believes if he can negotiate and get even 1 of 10 requests fulfilled, then that is better than nothing. With Republicans having the government trifecta, there is little leverage to get any concessions.
No, it’s not his perspective. He’s not fighting for Us. He’s an awful fucking negotiator. He gives his “final offer” as his opening bid, then continues to negotiate against himself from there.
He gives his “final offer” as his opening bid, then continues to negotiate against himself from there.
Normally I would agree with you, but shooting high with demands largely just leaves the right being unwilling to even talk about negotiating. This is what they did with the original 10 demands Democrats made.
cbsaustin.com/…/ridiculous-republicans-reject-dem…
Proposals put forward have to be tempting enough to pull individual Republicans to negotiate.
He thinks he’s safe from the jackboots.
He’s gotten multiple threats on his life including bomb threats to his office in December. He is very aware he isn’t safe.
Threats from the rabble is different than the paramilitary rolling up at his door in the middle of the night