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Once again #KDE tries to get rid of minority distributions. This time by replacing SDDM with PLM (plasma login manager). PLM depends on systemd.
So sooner or later no KDE for #alpineLinux, #FreeBSD, #Gentoo, #NetBSD, #OpenBSD, #Slackware, #VoidLinux, etc.

For #BLFS it is no problem as BLFS itself recently discontinued its non-systemd version.
#LFS

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PureTryOut Feb 5

@txt_file Eh, as the maintainer of KDE for Alpine Linux, it'll just keep using SDDM for now and that's no issue whatsoever. postmarketOS will move to PLM though, systemd is just straight up the better option.
If alternative projects come along that provide the same things as systemd does and does it just as well, I'm sure KDE would have no problem supporting them too, but there are no such alternatives at the moment.

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Triddle Feb 5

@bart @txt_file that's fine for you.

Others use KDE on different distros/OSs such as BSD, where systemd is not present.

I personally use KDE on FreeBSD 15. SDDM works, but if it gains a systemd dependency I can still use startx and skip the whole issue. Which I do

But if KDE decides to depend on systemd then I'm out, with no other choice but to use a different DE.

I will not switch from BSD to linux just because KDE made a silly design choice. Yes, that's my silly choice.

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PureTryOut Feb 5

@Triddle @txt_file You're all making too much of a problem of this. KDE officially supports FreeBSD with Plasma, and that's not going to change any time soon. As long as that is the case, systemd will not be a hard dependency of the DE.

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txt.file

@bart as I remember it is not the first time KDE thinks about systemd dependencies. With each time my trust shrinks bit by bit. My current feeling is that in ≤ 2 years KDE depends on systemd or something similar.
For now it is only the replaceable login manager. If sometime Dolphin becomes systemd-only will people say "you can just use another file manager"? After how many replacement parts does KDE stop being KDE (Ship of Theseus)?
@Triddle