Charlotte AtenFeb 4

Are there any good #FOSS alternatives to #Mozilla #Thunderbird with #NoAI ? When I was at the University of Denver I installed Thunderbird once so I could have a local copy of my work emails (through Microsoft), then I deleted it. I've now tried the same trick at CU Boulder (also Microsoft) and been told I need to request access to use Thunderbird. This still might work to back up my emails, but lately I've been thinking it would be nice to have an application instead of using a web client so I get local backups automatically and have a clearner interface. Is there anything good in this space that hasn't been subject to #enshittification ?

#academia #email #Microsoft #Denver #Boulder #CUBoulder #UniversityOfDenver

Show thread🧊 freezr 🥶Feb 4

@caten

Gnome Evolution is fine; Claws Email is fine.
However I had to stop using Gnome evolution for reasons I do not remember anymore, I guess some issue with my sad gmail account, therefore I switched to Claws Email on my little laptop.

Show threadyoasifFeb 4

@freezr @caten Does Claws actually work with Oauth2, or do you need to use the less secure password option?

(Harder to recommend).

I hadn't realized that Linux apps were in scope, so I'll mention Geary. I'm not recommending it exactly - I have it setup and it works, and that is pretty much all I know about it.

It runs faster than Thunderbird and follows the GNOME HIG better, too.

Show thread🧊 freezr 🥶Feb 4

@yoasif @caten

Claws does support Oauth2.

Now I realized that I ditched Gmail on all my low-powered devices, if I need to read email on Gmail I use my phone.

Show threadyoasifFeb 4

@freezr @caten Great - it didn't the last time I was evaluating email clients, so I wasn't actually able to try it (I'm very boringly a "normal" user).

Something to play with sometime soon!

Show thread🧊 freezr 🥶Feb 4

@yoasif @caten

claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/O…

Oauth2 - Claws Mail FAQ

Show threadDima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱

@freezr @yoasif @caten
interesting - I'll give Claws a try.

There is also davmail - a Java application which connects to OAuth2 email providers and forwards these connections to local imap/smtp (so you can keep using something like mutt)

https://davmail.sourceforge.net/linuxsetup.html

DavMail POP/IMAP/SMTP/Caldav/Carddav/LDAP Exchange Gateway - Linux setup

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Show thread🧊 freezr 🥶Feb 4

@dimpase @yoasif @caten

Be advised that Claws can only send plain-text emails, but it can receive html ones.