Bent StamnesFeb 4
Mark Dingemanse

So I see #Nolto doing the rounds as a supposed #OS #LinkedIn alternative

Judging from the Codeberg issues [1] and the self-professed ignorance of the prompter about fundamentals of federation and software dev [2], it seems highly likely that Nolto is vibe-coded

Superficially feature-rich but lots of loose ends and basic errors, this is a privacy and security disaster waiting to happen — I would not touch this with a barge-pole 😬

[1] https://codeberg.org/Tensetti/Nolto/issues?q=&type=all&sort=relevance&state=open&labels=&milestone=0&project=0&assignee=0&poster=0&archived=false

[2] https://codeberg.org/Tensetti/Nolto/issues/31#issuecomment-10292844

Feb 4 at 7:31amWeb
Show threadMark DingemanseFeb 4

Addition: @sandorspruit points out that the readme discloses this clearly (in case there was any doubt)

It's interesting to me that the style of the disclaimer itself features the typical LLM-assisted hubris: emphasis on lowering cost (whose cost, and at what price?) and big words about "deliberate and manual" decisions, but relatively little to show for it.

I will take the hint and move on.

Show threadTimothy WolodzkoFeb 4
@dingemansemark @sandorspruit "something has happened" sounds quite deliberate to me
Show threadSCRUMschauFeb 4

@dingemansemark

It is vibe coded.

https://nolto.social/privacy

Show threadelmineFeb 4

@dingemansemark Yep. @wakest said something similar, though the author did respond in his thread.

https://social.wake.st/@liaizon/116003468156071666

wakest ⁂ (@[email protected])

there is a vibe coded "fediverse" LinkedIn clone called https://nolto.social prompted by @[email protected] and it already has quite a few people trying it out. There are also a good amount of people opening issues on codeberg cause it advertises lots of features that are "hallucinated" on the front page like that its "Compatible with: Mastodon, Pleroma, Pixelfed, PeerTube, Lemmy, Misskey + 5,000 more" and "End-to-End Encrypted" https://codeberg.org/Tensetti/Nolto/issues

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Show threadThe Digital Coolie 🇵🇸 🇮🇷Feb 4

@dingemansemark

Shame. We need a LinkedIn alternative.

Show threadEelco Mulder  🇪🇺Feb 4

@Digital_Coolie @dingemansemark

This...

We need a LinkedIn alternative in the Fediverse.

Show threadDavid - Forking MadFeb 4

@dingemansemark Oh, it's definitely vibe-coding. They even admit it. (Something called Lovable).

I commented about my concerns on another post:

https://gofer.social/@daj/statuses/01KGF66F0Z3X7JHQPFPQM9ZCNE

Post by David - Forking Mad, @[email protected]

@[email protected] Like you, I have some concerns about Nolto. Specifically around who is behind the venture. There are no details on who is op…

gofer.social
Show threadGjalt-Jorn PetersFeb 4

@dingemansemark

Related to this need for a new LinkedIn, Bonfire can be that it seems...

And https://mastodon.nl/@matherion/116012968382507422 🙂

Gjalt-Jorn Peters (@[email protected])

🔥 There's still some time to join the crowdfunding for @[email protected] and contribute to building a better world! 🤩 https://www.indiegogo.com/en/projects/bonfire/community (if you don't know about Bonfire yet: it's an awesome project building a network that's community-governed, open, built for people instead of for companies, and engineered to support and empower communities. It's an amazing vision, and one they're well on their way to realize 💫✨) ( ⁂ and of course Bonfire federates with the fediverse 🥰 ⁂ )

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Show threadJak2k 🏳️‍🌈Feb 4
@dingemansemark Is this even allowed on @Codeberg? It might violate §2.3 or §2.6.4 of the ToS as the LLM was trained on stolen work. This could make generated text illegal too, but that was not ruled on by a court yet.
Show threadIrene ElmerotFeb 4
@dingemansemark
Since @JTensetti is here, perhaps you could ask him about it directly? They did ditch the loveable.app site recently, for one.
Show threadMark DingemanseFeb 4
@elmerot
I think @JTensetti is busy enough as is, and to be fair the readme is clear on the "AI assisted coding". I still decided to post because I think many people discover Nolto not via its repo but through its slick home page and / or a widely shared blog post about leaving LinkedIn, neither of which mention anything about vibe coding or Nolto's incomplete federation features