Kim HansenFeb 3
Nathan Manceaux-Panot

The Apple indie dev community is undergoing an identity crisis. For decades, whatever Apple said was good, was good. People mostly agreed with their ethics, design priorities, way of doing business.

Now that all of that has, well, severely degraded, it leaves us in the dark. The north star is gone.

Feb 3 at 9:31amWeb
Show threadNathan Manceaux-PanotFeb 3

It’s not that people can’t make their own decisions, of course. Rather, it’s that there used to be very strong cohesion, a clear set of shared values. People would implicitly work towards the same goals; push in the same direction.

Now, the community both can, and has to, self-organize much more.

Show threadamonduinFeb 3

@Cykelero

I think those that are financially able should leave the Apple community altogether.
ASOP based de-googled Android is a bit janky but getting away from the big tech corruption is worth it.

Big tech has proven itself far too willing to comply with the destruction of the world. It was becoming obvious with the refusal to comply with common sense changes required by the EU DMA but now it is just blatantly obvious that they are not worth supporting.

If you can afford to (your ability to live doesn't depend on it) don't help Apple maintain their platform prestige anymore, they don't deserve the best apps, they don't deserve the loyalty.

Show threadmax oaklandFeb 4
@amonduin True. And a good way to start is just buying your Apple products used. That's money Apple won't see
Show threadHighlanderFeb 3
@Cykelero Steve Jobs is being missed.
Show threadartjulianFeb 3
@Cykelero let’s keep showing them how it’s done 🙂
Show threadmax oaklandFeb 4

@Cykelero Yeah. It's kinda sad. It was nice to have a north star. Nice to have powerful people to admire and look up to.

But really, none of them were great people anyway. We made a lot of excuses for how Steve Jobs treated people. Tim Cook enabled that. Now we see him enabling a different narcissist. One more dangerous, that hurts more people. But it's still the same behavior.

Accepting and enabling that behavior has been a huge mistake and we're seeing the fallout from that

Show threadMagnus AhltorpFeb 4
@Cykelero I don't know what this "Apple indie dev community" is that thought that Apple was always right, unless it's part of the definition of that community.
Show threadMarcel WeiherFeb 8

@Cykelero Yeah, I set the bozo bit on Apple a couple of years ago.

And I didn't do it consciously either.

But nowadays when there is new software from Apple, my assumption is that it will be broken. Both obviously and subtly.

Apple had their "come to Jesus" moment on the hardware front some years ago. They got rid of Jonny Ive and gave us Apple Silicon.

Which is awesome.

Now I want to see the same in software.

https://blog.metaobject.com/2023/01/setting-bozo-bit-on-apple.html

Setting the Bozo Bit on Apple

The other day I was fighting once again with Apple Music. Not the service, the app. What I wanted to do was simple: I have some practice ...

Show threadNathan Manceaux-PanotFeb 8
@mpweiher True! The big hardware quality reversal gives hope for something similar with software.
Show threadMarcel WeiherFeb 10
@Cykelero Case in point: just got a new Mac mini. Lovely hardware, but every attempt to migrate from my old mini failed. No useful error message, nothing to diagnose.
Show threadFreediverXMar 12

@Cykelero @mpweiher
I think the hardware issues were easier to correct. The core products were still great, just marred by a few dumb and arrogant design and business decisions which only required some humility to correct (e.g., butterfly keyboard, ports, thinness vs functionality, MagSafe.)

I’m far less optimistic about the software. There is no quick fix here and nobody at Apple with any power or influence seems to understand what’s wrong with it or what needs to be changed.