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People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/
Dashboard totale Amerikaanse afhankelijkheden - Bert Hubert's writings

Hier een lijst organisaties die voor hun primaire missie totaal afhankelijk zijn van Amerikaanse clouds, en waarbij de maatschappij ontwricht zou worden als ze hun werk niet meer konden doen, bijvoorbeeld door sancties over Groenland. Dit omvat bijvoorbeeld wel de veiligheidsregioโ€™s en het UWV, maar niet het ministerie van economische zaken. Want als bij het departement EZ het licht uitgaat is dat vervelend, maar we kunnen wel een paar weken zonder nieuw beleid.

Bert Hubert's writings
Jan 19 at 8:27amWeb
Show threadliberloebi ๐Ÿ’‰๐Ÿ’‰๐Ÿ’‰๐Ÿ’‰๐Ÿฆ Jan 19
@bert_hubert may I suggest putting the text through a translating machine unto English, as most readers won't be doing that
Show threadZashJan 19
@bert_hubert My ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช municipality is all in on Microsoft all the things and just concluded a Copilot trial, send help!
Show threadLennartJan 19

@bert_hubert Same here in germany. Our state would just collapse.

OTOH, we also have soo much outdated on-prem stuff, we might just be fine ยฏ\\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

Show threadbert hubert ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆJan 19
@lenni yes this is our only hope ;-)
Show threadErnst de MoorJan 19
@bert_hubert I sincerely hope that these using American clouds at least have local backups of all data, so they can set up european services lateron (after the fact).
Show threadInnocuous In Innisfil Has MovedJan 19

@bert_hubert

I wonder what a Canadian list would look like...

#DigitalSovereignty #MastoCanadaGOV

Show threadRantingCanuckJan 19

@paulbusch @bert_hubert

I'll start with 3 off the top of my head:

- Our health care information systems in Alberta (and probably other provinces) are dependant upon Oracle and Epic Systems
- Every single level of government and most of our private sector are dependant upon Microsoft Windows and Office
- Most levels of government use AWS, which already leaves our data vulnerable to the Cloud Act

Show threadWesDymJan 19
@bert_hubert It's complicated. Those are all non-govt assets, meaning the US govt would have to somehow persuade those companies to comply, which might be difficult. That said, it's just prudent for countries to divest from US dependence if they can, to the extent they can. Nearly all these services are mostly just server farms, which anyone of means can build. In the short term, it might require temporarily repurposing existing domestic resources while new ones are built.
Show threadAndy WoottonJan 20
@bert_hubert Risk-adverse Europeans are already cutting ties with US tech. It has the added advantage of punishing the worst tech-bros for financially supporting Trump's fascists who are feeding on the souls of Republicans. [Edited when I realised the Republican Party never had a soul.]
Show threadDon StraneyJan 21
@woo @bert_hubert Nice bonus there. Speaking as an American, we need our "allies" to stop putting up with our shit and start cutting off ties. Working on the internal pressure, maybe if we're lucky also losing most of our exports would be a big enough deal to slow(?) the fascist takeover.
Show threadElischevaJan 20

@bert_hubert

Who what the fuck, would be Able to Work if Microsoft or Google cut service. They are almost everywhere. It is extremely rare to find someone not dependent on them.