Sebastian NiesenJan 10
European Commission

80 years ago, the UN General Assembly started with a dream: to maintain peace and security in the world.

The good?
Eight decades without World War III.

Where do we stand today?
Itโ€™s complicated.

But in a world of 8 billion people, itโ€™s the only room where everyone gets a seat.

80 years ago, we chose dialogue over force.
Today, we must choose it again.

Jan 10 at 8:30amWeb
Show threadGuusabcJan 10
@EUCommission
I think you would do wisely to correct your alt-text: it says 'bla' where you mean 'black'.
Show threadlowlevellovahJan 10
@taaldader 1) Where dos it says that?
2) You try to imply that there's Racism against Blacks in Europe, when Europe has received millions of Blacks from many Countries?
3) What agenda you're running?
Show threadJanet GrootebroederJan 11
@lowlevelloavah @taaldader That's hilarious.
Show threadEuropean CommissionJan 12
Thank you for spotting the error, @taaldader! We have now corrected it. ๐Ÿ™‚
Show threadPatrickJan 10
@EUCommission I just talked about 80 years of peace in Europe with my kids. It's unique for Europe to live in peace that long. But maybe that's also the reason we ignore the suffering caused by war as no one is around anymore telling you stories about how it was 80 years ago.
Show threadThin MaxJan 10
@lordkhan @EUCommission ex-Yugoslavia disagree with your "80 years of peace"
Show threadPatrickJan 10
@thinmax @EUCommission no offense intended, sorry for that! For the time being Yugoslavia was considered as a local conflict after the fall of the iron curtain. This doesn't make it less of a war, but it wasn't a large scale conflict all countries were involved.
Show threadHistoires MythiquesJan 10
@lordkhan @thinmax @EUCommission It should be called "80 years of peace in WESTERN Europe" (arguably, ignoring colonial conflicts)
Show threadHistoires MythiquesJan 10
@lordkhan @thinmax @EUCommission Still better than the 2000 years before that
Show threadPatrickJan 10
@hist_myth @thinmax @EUCommission yes, that's correct. There's always a war somewhere.
Show threadPฤ“teris KriลกjฤnisJan 10
@lordkhan @EUCommission I think we are mostly afraid. Peace is fragile, and talking and make yourself aware takes guts.
We must realise we are many who wants peace. We shouldn't go alone.
Show threadMab_813Jan 10

@lordkhan @EUCommission

"80 years of peace in Europe"?!
Why are you lying to your kids and pretending that the Balkan wars never happened?

The 1990s weren't that long ago. And you do realize that the Balkans are very much part of Europe?

Show threadPatrickJan 10
@Mab_813 @EUCommission you havenโ€˜t read my other replies and missed the explanation.
Show threadMab_813Jan 10

@lordkhan @EUCommission

I can't find any other replies of you in this thread and "80 years of peace in Europe" is still completely wrong.

Show threadPatrickJan 10
@Mab_813 @EUCommission European countries weren't at war with each other as they used to be. The war in former Yugoslavia came after the fall of the iron curtain and was within a country falling apart. Surely a proxy war between super powers of that time. But I get your point and it's of course valid as I remember especially the Croatian refugees in my city.
Show threadMab_813Jan 10

@lordkhan @EUCommission

You wrote "80 years of peace in Europe" and now you moved the goal posts to claim what you actually meant was "no war between European countries", which doesn't make sense either because Croatia etc. are clearly European countries?

The Balkan Wars happened within the last 80 years, and they are in Europe. Also, Ukraine. Do you really want argue that Ukraine experienced peace from 1945 to 2025?
That's 80 years and Ukraine is clearly in Europe too.

It's time to edit your post and correct your statement about "80 years of peace in Europe" because it's completely wrong. Unless you can imagine time travelling to Sarajevo in 1995 or Mariupol in 2022 and tell the locals to their faces "Isn't it great that we have peace in Europe since the end of World War II?! It's so peaceful here!!"

Show threadPatrickJan 10
@Mab_813 @EUCommission if you put it like that: there never has been real peace anywhere. We had terror attacks all over Europe and of course during and because of the cold war people actually died in Europe, too. We can argue about the definition of war and when a period of peace ended. I am with you that the war in the Ukraine changed a lot and we are not in peace anymore. But you are missing the point: it's possible to unite former enemies and try to live in peace.
Show threadjackJan 10
@EUCommission it's also 88 years since the Munich Conference showed that dialogue can only get you so far
Show threadRiquiรฑez Jan 10

@EUCommission Your mind has played you a bad trick and you wrote "World war III".

Maybe you were thinking about some president who does not respond well to dialogue... ๐Ÿค”

Dialogue only works if both parts agree.

Show threadMurray ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ Jan 10
@andrewblasco
I had to read it twice but it is correct. The important word is "without".
@EUCommission
Show threadLucy WeirJan 10
@EUCommission the UN, eh? UNHCR in Kakuma Refugee Camp. I remember it well. Corruption in action.
Show threadJohnJan 10
@EUCommission dialogue for us, force for them
Show threadSvavar the NeurospicyJan 10

@EUCommission

Palestine doesn't get a seat but the Vatican does. Mate it makes sense.

Show threadonelikeandidieJan 10
@svavar @EUCommission I just looked at a map, only one of these 2 is inside Europe...
Show threadinpcJan 10
@onelikeandidie @svavar @EUCommission

Must be Palestine, I just checked the Eurovision website, no entries from The Vatican ever.
Show threadsoaprootJan 10
@inpc @onelikeandidie @svavar @EUCommission Can't speak for all Europeans but based on my longstanding listening of @europeanspodcast I think you are making a strong case for Europeanness being defined by Eurovision.
Show threadSvavar the NeurospicyJan 11

@soaproot @inpc @onelikeandidie @EUCommission @europeanspodcast

So Australia is European now?

Show threadinpcJan 11
@svavar I guess so, itโ€™s all moving around now.
Show threadegg_shapped_eggJan 10

@EUCommission

The world seems to be a different place than it was 80 years ago though..

Talks and dialogue should go hand in hand with consequence and it feels like we lack that currently

Show threadDลบwiedziuJan 10

@EUCommission
Yeah, โ€œcomplicatedโ€. Everyone gets a seat at the table and they're told to shut up.

See the illegal blockade of Cuba for the crime not bending to the will of the US.

See Russia still having the front row seat.

See the USA bombing, kidnapping and supporting terrorism wherever they want.

See Israel still doing genocide.

See the rise of fascism which doesn't want dialogue, but blood.

Show threadArthur van der HargJan 10
@EUCommission The problem is that dialogue requires two parties willing to engage in it, where violence needs only one. If one party chooses violence, then it is a mistake to expect dialogue to end it. Violence only ends when it becomes too costly compared to its rewards.
Show threadG ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นJan 10
@EUCommission sure, but the UN as it is just doesn't work. One simple reform: get rid of the five Security Council's permanent members and their power of veto.
Show threadEike LeidgensJan 10

@EUCommission

Then DO it! Fill the financial gaps the US leaves us with.

Show threadCavallo PazzoJan 10

@EUCommission "Stoicism" the keyword as your mistress said.

โ€œStoicism teaches us not to fear challenges, but to meet them with clarity and resolveโ€ - mistress leyen.

And what big problems did you resolved with your "stoicism" - Ukraine war? No.

Trump will invade Greenland. No, you will not resolve this problem with your "stoicism".

Because you showed weakness (your mistress " stoicism") instead of power. You only risk 450 million human life with your "stoicism".

Good job.

Show threadww ๐ŸฉถJan 10
@EUCommission
8 decades without world war iii
8 decades of unchecked power concentrated in the hands of 5 rogue states
6 decades of treating taiwan as a second-class citizen, laying the path to invasion
8 decades of an unenforceable concept of human rights based on compromise, and 5 decades of its binding version which allowed each country to choose which human rights it doesn't believe in
8 decades of writing reports that no one reads, about problems no one wants to solve

it's still better than nothing, and most of those (though not all) were compromises they had to make to prevent the un from falling apart. but it's very very far from a room where each of the 8 billion people gets a seat. and preventing wwiii by giving the people who have the power to start it so much undeserved economic and political power that war is no longer in their best interest, is a questionable decision at best.
Show threadChopChop65Jan 10
@EUCommission
Dialog yes, but we also must watch our backs. Since the beginning of 2025, we have seen the world changing more than before, and people's voices are not being heard.
Show threadJohn Britton: Fanad ArtJan 10
@EUCommission Theyโ€™re fine words you write and hard to disagree with. But the structure of the UN means not everyone gets an equal seat in the room. Real power is reserved to the wealthy/historically powerful nations - and the UN becomes a fig-leaf for their brutality and criminality. The EU, through its complicity in the Gaza genocide, and its habitual acquiescence in US violence, has done as much to delegitimise the authority of the UN as any other government/organisation.
Show threadStorie SpettinateJan 10

@EUCommission

I'll not joke for your typo (World War III), you stop to joke with our feelings.

I'm European, proud to be part of a dream. I was here when we promised ourselves "NO MORE WAR IN EUROPE and in world".
I was so happy when I saw no more boundaries between countries.
My daughter could travel and work everywhere and feel at home in EU. Wonderful!
It is great, it is the pillow on which WE dream.
But while we, people, are dreaming, you, politics, are fucking everything.
Stop do it.

Show threadJohan DiederikJan 10
@storiespettinate @EUCommission it wasnโ€™t a typo. Read the text once more. It says: without WWIII
Show threadStorie SpettinateJan 10

@JohanDiederik @EUCommission

oh yes. My dyslexia bring me in error. I'm sorry for that.
@JohanDiederik thank you to correct me.

But the sense of my feeling doesn't change.

The current choices of EU are not at the level of our really power, culture, democratic dream and union. The european people are better than their politics, we have higher dreams and objectives.

Show threadJohan DiederikJan 10
@storiespettinate @EUCommission No problem. I agree to the sense of your feeling.๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
Show thread๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บJeroen๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆJan 10
@storiespettinate @JohanDiederik @EUCommission I agree with your feeling, but I feel compelled to point out that the (justified) criticism about the EUโ€™s lack of power, democracy and union has come about because the democratically elected governments of the member states are unwilling to really cede power to the EU. Every country has political parties willing to go that route, but they are never elected.
Show threadStorie SpettinateJan 10

@jeroen94704 @JohanDiederik @EUCommission

my dear Jeroen... you are killing me.

Consider: I'm from Italy.
Think about the current government of this country.

So, now, please hug me and wipe my tears, please! ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

Show thread๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บJeroen๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆJan 10
@storiespettinate @JohanDiederik @EUCommission *hug* and hereโ€™s a roll of tissues ๐Ÿงป ๐Ÿ˜‰
Show thread๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บJeroen๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆJan 10
@storiespettinate @JohanDiederik @EUCommission Don't feel bad. Here in the Netherlands, of the second (PVV), third (VVD) and fifth (JA21) largest parties are "Euro-sceptic" to varying degrees. The only silver lining is that the most anti-EU of those (PVV and JA21) will not participate in the new cabinet.
Show threadpartizanJan 10
@EUCommission Hi from Ukraine.
Show threadTanerJan 10
@EUCommission I'd say that's a bit presumptuous
Show threadinpcJan 10
@EUCommission

lol
Show threadKerplunkJan 10

@EUCommission

80 years ago, we chose dialogue over force.
Today, we must choose it again.

Really, at The end of a war against Faschism

You think dialogue will stop Putin and Trump.

The only thing those power mad persons understand is an adequate reaction.

FORCE THEM TO BACK DOWN OR FACE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES

Dialogue attempts are considered weakness.

You are letting EU Citizens down.

Show threadathmane mokraoui [BoF] โš๊ƒรฑโŒโ‚Jan 10
@EUCommission You mean, we failed to reach 100 years ?
Show threadfnordJan 10
@EUCommission One can only choose dialogue if one has skills, morals, methods, or sadly force, to back it up. For all our sakes: I hope you do. And I hope it's not giving administrations made up of bullies and their criminal cronies what they want.
Show threadDreyJan 10
@EUCommission - Absolutely ๐Ÿ’ฏ
Show threadTorf und SchneeJan 10

@EUCommission

"Where do we stand today?
We failed miserably".

Corrected for your convenience, no need for thanks (there anyway will be no one, so just saying).

Show threadkeyofGJan 10
@EUCommission All true, and commendable sentiments, yet you canโ€™t dialogue or appease bullies.
Show threadLutzJan 10
Yes, coalitions put barriers, see Hitler, Milosevic, Assat,...๐Ÿ˜ƒ
Show threadpubliusJan 10

@EUCommission

For those interested, here is my reading of the first part of the UN Charter, along with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and some other relevant texts :

https://archives.anonradio.net/202511111500_publius.mp3

Fair warning, the first thing is the poem "Dulce et Decorum Est" by Wilfred Owen.

Show threadlowlevellovahJan 10

@EUCommission What the UN did to solve the Venezuelan crisis, nothing really, words and International Court rulings that led to absolutely nothing; and no direct intervention was ever done, when all instances of dialog were exhausted, and was Direct Intervention was Authorized by the UN Security Protocols.

So why don't you shut up, and let the USA Gov. make the dirty work, you were too lazy & inept to do?

Show threadRobin BartonJan 10
@EUCommission Great point but it seems we have to keep relearning the same stupid lessons about the waste of blood and gold that we call war
Show threadChewieJan 13
@Robo105 @EUCommission don't forget "and oil" :/