MicroWaveJan 5

China says it cannot accept countries acting as 'world judge' after US captures Maduro

https://lemmy.world/post/41168012

China says it cannot accept countries acting as 'world judge' after US captures Maduro - Lemmy.World

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Beijing cannot accept any country acting as the “world’s judge” after the United States captured Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro. “We have never believed that any country can act as the world’s police, nor do we accept that any nation can claim to be the world’s judge,” Wang told his Pakistani counterpart Ishaq Dar during a meeting in Beijing on Sunday, referring to “sudden developments in Venezuela” without directly mentioning the U.S. “The sovereignty and security of all countries should be fully protected under international law,” China’s top diplomat added, in his first remarks since images of the 63-year-old Maduro blindfolded and handcuffed on Saturday stunned Venezuelans.

Show threadTheJesusaurusJan 5
And china are right in this case. They’re just also assholes
Show threadFiniteBanjoJan 5

I think they’re wrong. Their statement is basically that international law is meaningless and that they’re free to wage war without consequences.

This was probably their endgame from the beginning, since they promoted and helped reelect Donald Trump. If it came out that Trump, Maduro, Putin, and Xi Jinping all conspired to make these events happen, I would not at all be surprised.

Show threadTheJesusaurusJan 5
Well, international law is meaningless. As trump has just shown us.
Show threadFiniteBanjoJan 5

Were you expecting the consequences to be instantaneous? Like, what, simultaneous nuclear strikes in retalliation?

Even if proceedings started immediately there wouldn’t be changes to trade for weeks at a minimum and no sentencing for months or even years, but honestly proceedings aren’t likely to start until the individuals responsible lose political power.

Show threadreddit_sux
Sanctions against US like the ones against Russia.
Jan 5 at 4:42amWeb
Show threadFiniteBanjoJan 5
And China. Yes.
Show threadreddit_suxJan 5

In spite of many of its economic and military misadventures, China hasn’t invaded anyone as of yet.

That distinction is still important or else v shud sanction every country.

Show threadFiniteBanjoJan 5

China is occupying Tibet and Hong Kong and claiming it owns Taiwan as well. It also frequently sends warships through seas owned by the Philippines where it has been illegally fishing and destroying Philippines fishing vessels. A couple of weeks ago Chinese authorities refused an Indian passport because they claimed that part of India belonged to China.

Also, China waged war on it’s own people in Tienanmen Square.

Show threadhitmyspotJan 5

Hong Kong was returned to china by the UK as agreed when it was leased. None (few?) of the people living there at the time of handowver were alive when the agreement was made but they were living in Hong Kong on borrowed tine regardless, legally speaking. It’s a very different situation to an illegal invasion.

China not getting Hong Kong back as a territory would have been more damaging to international law and order and international treaties and agreements. International treaties and agreements are supposed to outlive those who agreed them. It’s between nations, not people.

Show threadFaceDeerJan 5
Yeah, much as I dislike how it turned out and how China has been ignoring what post-unification rules there were on Hong Kong, the return itself was above board. Had I been living in Hong Kong in the years leading up I'd have taken the opportunity to get out if at all possible.
Show threadFiniteBanjoJan 5
Idk about above board, the nation it was supposed to be returned to doesn’t exist anymore.
Show thread「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)Jan 5

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successor_state

Example:

USSR --> Succeeded by Russian Federation and they inherited the UN seat and the Non Proliferation Treaty

ROC --> UN members voted to recognize PRC as the representative of “China”

Returning Hong Kong to China wasn’t the issue, the issue is that PRC does not have democracy. If they had democracy, I doubt anyone would care that Hong Kong became part of China.

I don’t think Hong Kongers want to secede, per se, they just want freedom.

Successor state - Wikipedia