I'm really tired of hearing terms like "digital detox".

We don't need to "detox" from digital. We need to wrest control of digital away from the capitalist oligarchs who have corrupted it into a torment nexus.

@faoluin It's like environmental remediation for the internet, which, I suppose is kind of a detox...
@faoluin I don’t know what “digital” they’re on, but this place is definitely capable of making us better people.
@faoluin Iow we don't need a digital detox we need to detox digital
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I've interpreted it as "a move to a more quiet space". Sounds less fancy, but online stuff can be noisy and when unfiltered, kind of exhausting. 'Cause that all it is. I've bolstered my tolerance to fancy words too, in order to not get to emotionally charged by wordsmithing, for it's own sake.

@faoluin Instead of a "digital detox", I detoxed my digital.
Google? Moved all my PIM to NextCloud, and my email to a better provider.
Netflix, Crunchyroll, etc - I ripped a movie collection to a personal server.
Spotify? I've gone back to buying music, and keeping it on that same personal server.

Windows? I left Windows back in 2009, and my only regret is I didn't switch to Linux sooner.

@hellomiakoda Right on! I've been on roughly the same journey with Nextcloud, Linux, and email.
@faoluin So far, my only deliberate AI use was I played with it a bit to get an understanding of what it's doing... poorly.
I asked it to play along for a story, I playing one of the characters. It could not keep track of what characters can and can't do (like one being unable to eat, or one not knowing a skill), and would make up shit that didn't actually happen earlier, or make characters remember events together from before they met.
AI makes less sense than the highest stoners.
@faoluin Was it amusing to play with? Sure. Amusing enough to be worth the energy and resources it burns? No. Would I trust it with anything? HA No! Maybe I'd let it turn on my lights, since nobody dies if my lights come on at the wrong time... but only if I put it in my own little box and it can't call anybody besides me. I'd much rather just stick to old school voice commands.

@hellomiakoda
I hear you.
Still, I spend way too much time here. My eyes are getting worse from staring at a laptop screen all day and then staring at my phone or the TV, my wrists and thumbs get pain sometimes, my back would be way more flexible if I didn't spend so much time bent over various screens.
Exercise and contact with nature and real life friends are good of themselves.

@faoluin

@econads @faoluin @hellomiakoda my shoulder kills me with scrolling or clicking all day. Was great when over the holidays I read books for 4 days with hardly picking up my phone I almost didn't feel like my shoulder blade was trying to murder me

@faoluin Right? Maybe you heard and/or read Edward Zitron's "Never Forgive Them" where he decries the Internet that was lost and the continious war on the User.

I remember when Facebook wasn't shit and Forums and old Youtube.

Cooperations made everything bland and even death gets a nice little euphemism like unalive that removes a lot of gravitas in discussions.

I dont miss everything like gore snuff and the right wing dominance of E-culture, but i miss the authenticity and rawness it had.

@faoluin AAAND i forgot the link to
"Never Forgive Them".

Oopsie.

https://www.wheresyoured.at/never-forgive-them/

Never Forgive Them

In the last year, I’ve spent about 200,000 words on a kind of personal journey where I’ve tried again and again to work out why everything digital feels so broken, and why it seems to keep getting worse, despite what tech’s “brightest” minds might promise. More

Ed Zitron's Where's Your Ed At
@Benaresh I confess that I may listen to Ed Zitron like a preacher. His podcast is my detox from AI bullshit.
@Benaresh I think right wing dominance of online culture wouldn't have happened had social media algorithms not been there to be manipulated by the grifters. Or at least it wouldn't have been as strong.
@faoluin I think so too! People treat the Algorithm as something natural and not made by Software engineers.

@faoluin i intentionally have no mobile phone

Upside is, i feel free and can still be around the country without surveillance and pressure

Downside is, lost almost all of my friends and access to RL events the recent 15 years because everyone and everything is now strictly requiring Telegram

@faoluin this! besides 'detox' has negative connotations to me anyway, so much of it is just a wellness grift money grab

@faoluin I've always considered this 'digital detox' a bit same as all the 'no drink January' things - people kinda understand that there's a problem, but they try to combat it with total disconnection, during which they only suffer and then double down on the 1st of Feb.

It's a shame that for an average user, 'but everyone is there' is annoyingly valid argument when it comes to switching from mega corp social media to Fediverse for example.

@faoluin ...jesus christ the internet really is the torment nexus now huh
@faoluin scuse my gawping, just a terrifyingly apt comparison somehow
before one goes to war against britain, one needs to cure the opium addiction of its people first.

@faoluin

Exactly, all you AI replaced talent - get the necissary competative and defensive aps on the market. I'm aready setting up what I can find but sure could use some coherent directions. Need some books available, too. The web started with small business and cooperative interaction. Take it back.

@faoluin https://simone.org/tracking-screen-time has a great writeup on how why exactly the commonly pushed narratives about digital health suck and what better alternatives there are.

Also, "detox" is in general kind of a red flag, there are a lot of narratives using it as a shortpaw for "removing the bad stuff" that also fall apart when you ask their perpetuators to quantify what exactly the bad stuff is.

How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

Why tracking screen time doesn't matter and improving the relationship with your phone requires conscious decisions.

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