The definition of a public policy failure.

A couple just left our place to head home. They are using Lyft because it's cheaper than two public transit fares.

#TTC
#Toronto
#Fail

@chu oh wow
@tylersi @chu me living in village close to #Tallinn (#Estonia), 25km from work in Tallinn , cca 1 Euro with local bus to closest municipality center and then bus to Tallinn for 2 Euro (that means both ways for 6 eur together). My hybrid SUV takes 5.7 litres on 100 km (so the same trip will cost me 4.25) using SUV for commuting is cheaper by 1.75 Eur. And I am not even talking it saves me almost 2 hours of time (yes car is usually quicker) each day I travel to office I can spend with my family. No one can blame me, I am not using Public Transport. PS: if someone would like to accuse me, that I am liar, because Tallinn has free public transport, be aware it is free for Tallinn residents only. So two takeaways, either it is insane how public transport can be expensive or how efficient SUV can be.
@janantos @tylersi @chu how much did. your SUV cost you and how much does it depreciate with every km you drive?
@simsan @tylersi @chu you understand that while living in countryside car is must have, nearest shop (very small basic food) is 5 km away in next village same apply for sons hobby lessons, etc. So this cost and depreciation BS is out of equation anyway. And as I said, spending 1 vs 3 hours commuting is in terms of time spent with family priceless. ;-)

@janantos @simsan @tylersi

100%

When you own the car, the marginal cost of operating it is cheaper than transit even in the big city, let alone the country. I do not blame you. I am pointing out the public policy failure.

Hence the toot. The fact that what both of what we said are true IS the failure.

We should not have to take personal hits to the pocket book to take public transport, the mode that the rich snub as a thing for poor losers too.

Its all propaganda for the oil industry.

We are living this lie and none of us can escape it alone. We need to acknowledge its failure and stop voting low IQ turds into office just because they are white and can hold a slogan

@chu my second toot was not pointed to you. I fully agree with you to the single letter. Mo so (first grade in school) is commuting to next village school by public transport bus. My original toot was, pointing that even being alone in car can is some circumstance be cheaper that public transport. I haven’t in most cases driving car, when I was living in town with decent public transport. But living in countryside is completely different variable. We are also using car to visit our family in Czech Republic driving from Estonia through whole Baltics and Poland. We could fly but this makes more sense for us (we have freedom and do not need to rent car there, and can pack whatever we want with us) and it is even greener that flying. @simsan