mccIf I had the attention span to write fiction longer than a page I'd write a near-future story where for RFK reasons it has become easier to get illegal recreational meth than ADHD drugs so the coop in Portland that makes the black market estrogen has a side gig buying street meth and converting it backward into Adderall
Hugo Mills@mcc There was a chemistry paper published a few years ago, where they noted that pseudoephedrine was hard to get hold of, but there was a precursor readily available, and they'd got a good reaction pathway to make pseudoephedrine from crystal meth.
Dan Lyke
Neia masks@mcc I hear that "meth" has changed a lot over the past few years. Originally, it was just bad for your health but perked you up and made you sociable. Now, whatever's being passed off by that name is causing lethargy instead.
Not gonna lie, I've had enough trouble getting adderall that I've thought about going for street drugs instead. But I have little enough trust that I verify the pills I get whenever they change appearances. Also, having ADHD, I was never able to do the work to track down a source...
Not gonna lie, I've had enough trouble getting adderall that I've thought about going for street drugs instead. But I have little enough trust that I verify the pills I get whenever they change appearances. Also, having ADHD, I was never able to do the work to track down a source...
@neia it seems like for therapeutic use you'll want very precise dosing which is probably not what street dealers are going for.
@mcc Reasonably precise, yeah.
Method of delivery is another big difference between street meth and Desoxyn. Snorting, smoking, and injecting gives you a strong, fast high. Taking a pill gives you a much more significant delay and a longer delivery with a lower peak. That means the pill form is a lot less habit-forming.
Method of delivery is another big difference between street meth and Desoxyn. Snorting, smoking, and injecting gives you a strong, fast high. Taking a pill gives you a much more significant delay and a longer delivery with a lower peak. That means the pill form is a lot less habit-forming.
arti@neia @mcc the first thing i would do, if my medication would run out, would be to go to the next big train station equipped with cold beer a lot of cigarettes, tabacco etc to ask me for to get some kind of "pep" and to clean that up with the cleanest approximation to acetone i can get (most shit dissolves in aceton after replacing the supernatant time after time of slow stirring some suddently lies on the ground...)...
✧✦Catherine✦✧@mcc you've read that one paper, right
@whitequark I have read very few pharmacology papers. It is not within my area of competency.
Hugo Mills (@[email protected])
@[email protected] There was a chemistry paper published a few years ago, where they noted that pseudoephedrine was hard to get hold of, but there was a precursor readily available, and they'd got a good reaction pathway to make pseudoephedrine from crystal meth.
@mcc yes. though it is... let's say it's more of a joke than an actual process
external quantum efficiency@whitequark @mcc indeed
@whitequark @darkling doi pl0x? @mcc but sounds plausible. Smurfed ritalin is used as precursor for emma...
I didn't keep a link, but a search turns up https://improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume19/v19i3/Pseudoephedrine.pdf
... although I thought the one I saw was longer, and not in AIR. (I might have been wrong about that, though).
Ellyse
Nicolás Alvarez@mcc That's also the case in Argentina. Meth is illegal. Amphetamine is also illegal. But meth is likely easier to find a dealer for.
Dan MacLeod 
@mcc in Australia forba while it was so hard to buy Pseudoephedrine that I saw an article about how to convert meth to decongestant.
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