Scott J.Dec 4
Robert Reich
Dec 4 at 4:59pmWeb
Show threadmaybeanerdDec 4
@rbreich I noticed you didn't have alt text, let me just ๐Ÿ‘€ @altbot
Show threadThird spruce tree on the leftDec 4

@rbreich Alternatives exist! Ones that pay artists fairly!

Qobuz (Canadian) comes to mind. $0.018 / stream.

(from duck.ai)

Streaming Service Approx. Payout per Stream (USD) Estimated Payout per 1,000 Streams (USD)
Qobuz $0.0187 $18.70
Napster $0.019 - $0.021 $19.00 - $21.00
Tidal $0.0128 - $0.013 $12.80 - $13.00
Apple Music $0.0078 - $0.01 $7.80 - $10.00
Amazon Music $0.004 - $0.008 $4.00 - $8.00
Deezer $0.0064 $6.40
Spotify $0.003 - $0.004 $3.00 - $4.00

Show threadcontrasocialDec 4

@tezoatlipoca @rbreich

Can attest to Qobuz being fine. Good quality, reliable streaming, has all the same music I had favorited on Spotify.

Show threadmike805Dec 4

@rbreich I remember when MP3s were going to transform the music industry and liberate artists from those evil recording contracts, where they only got $1 out of the $15 you paid for a CD.

Are the artists liberated yet?

Show threadFrancisca SinnDec 4

@rbreich With great respect for all you do, I must clarify:

*its CEO has accumulated assets worth $9.8 Billionโ€ฆ

Weโ€™re not going to get anywhere while we still teach that people are โ€œworthโ€ the funds in their bank accounts, or lack thereof.

Show threadUnredacted Epstein files nowDec 4
@fsinn @rbreich Exactly.
Show threadScryptDec 4
@rbreich: Qobuz is the fairest and most ethical streaming service right note and of course itโ€™s located in Western Europe. We have to bring it to every platform: smart TVs as well as phones. The difference between what other streamers pay artists and what Qobuz does makes the possibility of fairness visible. Qobuz, Bandcamp and SoundCloud are the only platforms I support at the moment.
Show threadCubeOfCheeseDec 5
@scrypt @rbreich why not tidal?
Show threadJohn๐Ÿฅ›Dec 6
@cubeofcheese @scrypt @rbreich Block/Dorsey owned, pays less than Q
Show threadScryptDec 4
@rbreich: Apple needs to drop its exclusivity and embrace services like Qobuz and Bandcamp, too. Think of Qobuz versus Apple Music as the fair-pay, fair-play equivalent of USB C versus Lightning.
Show threadAndrรฉ KleinDec 4
@rbreich yup. i finally got fed up this year and went back to hosting my own music library:
Show threadToran ShawDec 4
@rbreich I've pretty much stopped using my account now, as I mostly listen to music on YouTube or Tidal.
Show threadycwangDec 4
@rbreich I turned to Youtube Music because I need Youtube Premium to get rid of Ad. But Spotify has best app among Youtube/Amonzon/Apple music
Show threadLukefromDCDec 4

@ycwang @rbreich You can also watch Youtube videos ad-free by using an Invidious instance instead of Youtube's own site.

I myself follow a "zero subscription" model in part to ensure nobody can use payment devices to prove my legal name and ownership of any of my online work.

Show threadAron LindegรฅrdDec 4
@rbreich And they push out AI slop to make sure they pay themselves instead of other people.
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@rbreich I am more surprised that they shut down #allofmp3 for piracy, while doing the same thing themselves.
Show threadIbRaenDec 4
@rbreich Bold of you to assume all artists are paid. People with less than 1k streams, like myself, don't get paid. Even my one stream every once in a blue moon, doesn't count. The revenue goes to the pool to pay artists with more than 1k artists. Including big labels.
Show threadmuggebatscherDec 4
@rbreich deezer is an alternative
Show threadAlisonW โ™ฟ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆโ™พ๏ธDec 4
@rbreich
Their CEO is definitely not "worth" that enormous amount of money, he's just allowed to get away with stealing it from the people who actually do the work.
Show threadwinterDec 4
@rbreich if you want on demand streaming of music you actually own, you can set up jellyfin and connect to the server via tailscale completely for free literally all you need is a shitty computer you can always have on (excluding electricity costs)
Show threadHarald K.Dec 4
@rbreich Many good reasons to boycott Spotify, but payment per stream is not one of them. They give the same 70% of total subscription fees to rights owners as other streaming services. If they pay less per stream, that's just because they have fewer passive subscribers.
Show threadLee ๐ŸŒDec 5
@rbreich
I use Bandcamp. Artists get paid 300 times more
Show threadinpcDec 5
@rbreich I thought the time tio tell Daniel Elk to fuck off was at least 5 years ago. Why is he even here still?

Cunts.
Show threadMichael Eggers ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บDec 5
@rbreich Source ICE recruitment ads?
Show threadMichael Eggers ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บDec 5
@rbreich Alright looked it up. Time to give jellyfin a try. Amazing how I gravitate back to what I did in 2001 with my music collection. Just more sophisticated.
Show threadCrovanianDec 6
@rbreich youโ€™ve heard of brat summer now get ready for not-spoofy wimter