Installed Linux on my home desktop again after… maybe 15 years? Decided for #fedora for a genuine #gnome experience.

Wondering now if the guys that created the gnome defaults actually use a computer. No tray for apps. No minimize or maximize buttons. No shortcuts on desktop.

What the hell, man?!

@spipau I watched the movie, thank you for it, it helps. I understand the flow but I think it doesn't fit all use cases and in the end you still need to use some tweaks. So for example one use case is with Signal, where I would just like to have it minimized (but I don't have a minimize button by default) and get a popup from the tray, or a tray notification, when someone writes something to me.

@spipau Having it open all the time in a virtual screen seem both annoying and unnecessary. Or maybe I'm missing how to do this "the gnome way".

At the moment I added Dash to Dock extension and enabled minimize via Tweaks. It's somehow OK like this. But I'd still love to see a working tray area (tried to add an extension but didn't seem to work with Signal but somehow worked with Spotify, and some others were not compatible because of Wayland).

@mugureltudor old habits are hard to overcome and a new ways of using your computer will take time and effort. Might also be the case that the minimalist approach of GNOME is just not yours and you should give @kde or @linuxmint a chance. They are more the "Windows Way".

I never minimise windows as I just put them a on specific workspace. My most left workspace is always about communications. So that's where Signal, Thunderbird, etc live. So I always know where they are.

@spipau @mugureltudor that's not really necessary either. if you use Flatpak, background apps are visible in Quick Settings
@nyx_lyb3ra @mugureltudor not all my application are Flatpaks and for "normal" users this should just work for any application. GNOME is not perfect but by far the best desktop environment you can have ❤️✌️

@spipau i never liked KDE. I checked it recently and I dislike it as much as I disliked it before. Too busy.

I don't think it's about the "Windows way", because I used linux a lot in the past and not all the interfaces I used were like that. I was pretty happy for a long time with Window Maker. Or Fluxbox. I will stay with Gnome for now for "nostalgia efect" because I used it for many years in the past, before it was even version 1.0 and up until 2.something. I'll see how it goes.

@mugureltudor I agree very much with you about KDE. Sounds like you know what you do and great to have you. Extensions are your friend if you want to tweak and the great thing about Linux is the choice you get 🙂