Reminder that EVERYTHING Anthropic or OpenAI announce in public is propaganda designed to boost their market cap when they hit the IPO they're aiming for.

It's marketing, folks. There is no intelligence behind the artifice, it's just spicy autocomplete and hucksters in $5000 suits trying to pick your boss's pocket.
https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/115548040527129225

@cstross agreed. tho I do think its funny that much (but not all) of what CEOs do seems like it could be done much more cheaply by a well-trained LLM
@synlogic4242 I speculate that CEOs are so gung-ho on LLMs to replace jobs because they have a gut recognition that LLMs can replace *their* jobs, and they don't fundamentally understand that key workers are not doing the same things they've been taught to value (because they get paid a bundle to do them).
@cstross I mean, you have right to have your opinions as all of us, but saying that AI is "autocomplete… is too much. An autocomplete would never suggest new names, new implementation and architectural ideas, and so on, and so forth. Yes, it's not "intelligence" as we perceive our own intelligence, but not autocomplete either.
@menelion It's autocomplete on whole paragraph scale, not whole word scale.
@menelion @cstross New to you does not mean new. LLMs cannot suggest new anything, they return what is statistically likely to be a response to any given input based on their training data. With a bit of randomness thrown in just for that extra spicy level of “you can never trust this for any real work.”
@menelion @cstross LLMs don't operate on word level, but rather token level. it will give tokens likely to go together. It can't come up with something completely new, like something that is very unlikely to have ever been tried before (where innovation usually is) and probably never will

@menelion @cstross "An autocomplete would never suggest new names, new implementation and architectural ideas, and so on, and so forth."

Why? Autocompletes often make changes I do not want and that are out of context with bad parameters.

LLMs are basically large scale autocomplete, running on GPU, with a grain of stochastic variablity put on top.

@Enthalpiste @cstross It's like calling a modern powerful PC a typewriter. Fundamentally yes, probably. But I experimented with AI: I opened a page to an AI that doesn't know anything about me, no signup, no login. And I gave out of the blue three words I invented, totally made up, and asked to choose. And AI deduced that one of them might be a name of a planet in a fantasy setting (which is true for that case). I repeat, I invented those words, I was not inspired by anything (like "Earst" for "Earth", far from that). So, call it autocomplete if you fancy, but it has enough training to evaluate made-up stuff and suggest anything upon it.
Of course, it hallucinates.
Of course, you don't commit AI-generated code to production, you don't send AI-generated emails without checking, you don't… you get it, of course that is absolutely true.
But I don't get why not to use it as a tool that can make processes far quicker and spare your time from boring stuff.

@menelion @cstross The fact that a word is made up and that it sounds fitted for a given context are two different things, none of which validate your claim.

One the hand you say that your word is made up so it’s unlikely that ChatGPT gives you its context. Yet it is fairly easy to guess the context of some made up words such as FartLand or Poppilympulla. The first one can be a parody country or planet and the second a fake medica or botanical term. Yet, they’re made up. Because made up words are also often chosen so that we make sense of their use.

In addition to that, you say that you've chosen your word to a given use case that ChatGPT guessed. By the mere fact that you have chosen this word for a fantasy land context is an indication that you found it fit for the purpose, based on your own knowledge of fantasy literature or art. This is exactly what ChatGPT is also trained with. It is fooling you.

On the other hand, for the use of such tools, my brain does a better job most of the time withour relying on a venture industry that is likely to dramatically raise its costs at some point and that is polluting the planet, essentially for mediocre outputs that nobody requires.

@menelion @Enthalpiste @cstross

In the past few months AI has wasted far more of my time than it could ever possibly save.

One of the things I do in my day job is proof-read, re-word and fact-check matters of local history. I spent days trying to unpick a batch of information that simply didn't add up and couldn't be referenced. In the end it became apparent that someone had searched the internet for some background and believed the first things they read on those wretched AI overview search engine results.

@Enthalpiste @menelion @cstross "...a bit of stochasticity on top" this is so far the best description of the "intelligence" in LLMs. Randomness. It does not "invent" -- it picks at random. Similarily it does not "guess" and certainly does not "know".

I find it disturbing when people rely on LLMs to act as teachers for them or ask for advice in legal or medical aspects. Worst of all is that children learn to rely on these services.

A trillion dollar stochastic autocomplete.

@jluukka @menelion @cstross I really had a full "WTF?" moment when I discovered that what some models call "temperature" really is a Boltzmann like "exp(-1/kbT)" sampling over the output probability distribution.

Like... why? This makes sense in statistical physics because of canonical distribution. But I'm not sure there is a solid theoretical ground for this in ML.

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@cstross
Don't look behind the curtain.
Ignore that guy.
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, 1900

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age
A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer, 1995.
The AI was fake.

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@cstross Just another mechanical turk

@cstross

It is pretty amazing to think they would go down this track but I guess they figure Congress is so dysfunctional that they can totally dismiss any regulatory risk that might carry otherwise.

@cstross

While it absolutely is marketing - in some situations it also is an effective tool. When used by a skilled operator, a *good* AI (something very large and recent) can increase coding speed significantly - I can do in a day what would have taken me a week. The hackers are using it too, and it's effective, and that's a real problem in computer security.

But for human/creative stuff, especially with an unskilled user? Yeah it's a joke. And for unskilled technical folks it can actually be a negative, leading you down unproductive paths. And yes they're built on theft. A bazillion problems.

But: AI is not entirely useless. Dismiss it at your peril.

@tbortels @cstross When I was young, AI was also big (but not tech bubble big). At the time, it was based on search, and some useful search strategies came out of it. But no one calls those AI any more.

Similarly, I expect some useful (but expensive in power/cooling) machine learning will still be used when the dust settles, but no one will call it AI either.

@cstross Someone posted a financial podcast the other day in which they believe OpenAI is likely to IPO in '26 or '27 based on the state of their finances. I'd say that is about right, and I'd also suggest that OpenAI or Anthropic IPO'ing will be the beginning of the AI bubble bursting: the 'wizard' will no longer be able to hide behind the curtain.
@unattributed @cstross If that's the case, they all need to IPO at the same time. Which means a strong incentive to try and jump the gun. Any attempt to IPO after the bubble breaks must fail.
@cstross not sure how I feel about the fact that "hey this thing we made is incredibly dangerous & can steal from you all on its own!" is regarded as a VALUE PROPOSITION.

@FeralRobots @cstross They frame it like this because it makes LLM seem capable of more than just statistical reproduction of training material.

Heck, even calling LLMs AI trying to do the same thing.

@cstross

Since the 1990s every tech wave has been a pump and dump bubble laying the groundwork for the next pump and dump bubble. The staggering inefficiency of such a Ponzi economy, channelling capital into mega-billionaires pockets instead of productive growth is why China is rolling out 400 kph mag lev trains while we are shoveling brain dead software into toasters.

@mastodonmigration @cstross As Keynes says it: "The position is serious when enterprise becomes the bubble on a whirlpool of speculation. When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done"

@nicopap @cstross

Knew we were in trouble when speaking to a group of young tech entrepreneurs who had no idea what a P&L statement was, but were very conversant in 'eyeball' metrics.

@mastodonmigration

you don't need to do P&L statements when you're never going to turn a P

@nicopap @cstross

@mastodonmigration @nicopap @cstross

Could be a covid metric. .
Inter pupil airy distance. > 6’

@mastodonmigration It's not just tech.
This is post-capitalism.
@cstross @mastodonmigration “The staggering inefficiency of such a Ponzi economy, channelling capital into mega-billionaires pockets instead of productive growth is why China is rolling out 400 kph mag lev trains while we are shoveling brain dead software into toasters.”
Fucking gold right there!

@mastodonmigration @cstross I've been a fan of the Austrian Business Cycle model. I believe real finance people have debunked it, but we sure seem to see the cycles anyway. Easy money is "invested" into worse and worse businesses, which -- surprisingly -- go bust and take the economy with it.

This AI bust coupled with current USA policies is going to bring (IMO) a world-wide Depression.

@mastodonmigration @cstross nailed it. and western/northern Europe's quality of life is far higher than typical American
@mastodonmigration @cstross 'I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that"

@mastodonmigration @cstross

Not said better anywhere. Its not just theft and unfairness, its massively destructive.

Like supply side economics slows the economy to a standstill, while also starving people with no healthcare.

Its not just not worth protecting supply side accumulationist billionairism, its VITAL to get rid of it with fair wages and fair taxation.

@mastodonmigration @cstross
And other green transition climate tech.
@mastodonmigration @cstross Pretty much the standard model of capitalism. Booms and busts are built-in.

@cstross

Grand Theft Autocorrect would have been a better term that LLM or GenAI 😉

@simonzerafa @cstross I've been calling it "grand theft autocomplete" for a while now (fairly much ever since I read someone else calling it that...)

And I'm still waiting for an anti-malware program to set its sights on de-AI-fying computers...

@cstross Plus most people in the world are literally evaluating this thing based on vibes and what the rich & powerful are saying. They don’t know enough and can’t learn fast enough.

Then there’s the issue of job insecurity as a threat that’s skewing their response towards anxiety about their jobs. Silicon Valley exploits this anxiety 250%

@cstross hey leave the artisan suit makers out of this disaster they aren't pushing AI

@McNeely @cstross

Oh! such times are these when even us bespoke Seville row tailors are besmirched with the excrement paint roller of slAInder.

@cstross They'll never make it. I've been studying and writing about the bot-com bubble burst, and it's a compelling thought.
@maryanpelland *Nods* They won't make it, but they *believe* they'll make it—or at least stand a chance of cashing out personally—otherwise they'd be hyping "quantum supremacy" or something else instead.
@cstross Sorry for the self-promotion, but I looked intot he current stauts froma writer's point of view. Have a look if you care to. https://pen2profit.substack.com/p/the-ai-bubble-explained-why-your
The AI Bubble Explained: Why Your Writing Assistant Might Disappear

Part 2 of 3: Understanding the rot economy before it’s too late

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@cstross I've been part of an IPO. It's legalized theft. When my company went IPO, the price was set *far* too high, and immediately started tanking. Employees were prohibited from trading their options, I suppose to make sure none of *us* could take down the kind of money the bankers running the IPO did.

We opened at $20, and I noticed our CEO owned...zero shares. Once her trading program kicked in, I could see that she *knew* it was an $8 stock. Should be criminal fraud, but %100 legal.

@cstross spicy autocomplete is the best term for ai ive heard imho

@cstross Can you short sell an IPO?

If I had a couple of spare millions lying around, I'd be very, very tempted.