Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe

@vkc

I am currently testing out stuff.
Someone recommended Brave to me, because it was data friendly and rather secure.

What is the issue with brave ( other than it using AI shit in default)?
I am genuinly asking because i want to be aware of issues that are connected with services i use and if it us something that makes it a no go for me or not.

#BraveBrowser

Nov 11 at 4:29pmWeb
Show threadAttaboyNov 11

@v_d_richards @vkc

Some links to check out: https://lobste.rs/s/v8izex/list_brave_browser_controversies

List of Brave browser controversies

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Show threadViktoria D. Richards/UddelhexeNov 11

@attaboy @vkc

In summary ( it is rather difficuld to understand as a non-native speaker who is no IT expert)bit is this?:

- they finance themselves using blockchain/krypto stuff
- they sell userdata to AI companies for training
- they implement AI themselves

Did i understand that right?

Show threadAttaboyNov 11

@v_d_richards @vkc

it amounts to a lot of scammy practices and being dishonest to their users.

their advertising as being privacy focused is at odds with their business model revolving around ads.

they sell userdata to AI companies for training

afaict this is about ingesting copyrighted material for training their AI, w/o giving attribution to the original creator.

Show threadmav Nov 11
@v_d_richards
And they're founded and run by a homophobe.
@attaboy @vkc
Show threadSwift (will be at EMF)Nov 12
@v_d_richards it's also owned by Brendan Eich, who was pushed out of Firefox leadership for being a right wing homophobe (including financially supporting homophobic political projects). So it was pretty unwelcome out the gates. They have subsequently only continued to disappoint.
Show threadAttaboyNov 11

@v_d_richards @vkc taken from wikipedia:

"Brendan Eich [...] served as the Mozilla Corporation's chief technical officer before he was appointed chief executive officer, but resigned shortly after his appointment due to pressure over his opposition to same-sex marriage. He subsequently became the cofounder and CEO of Brave Software."

Show threadViktoria D. Richards/UddelhexeNov 11

@attaboy @vkc

Oh, that is a huge red flag😒

Show threadnoodlejetski Nov 11
@v_d_richards https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/
Stop using Brave Browser

Seriously.

The Spacebar
Show threadScaea - SocialNov 11
@noodlejetski @v_d_richards Wow. Important stuff in here.
Show thread0xFFFF_FFFFNov 11
@v_d_richards @vkc theres nothing wrong with brave.
Show threadjadeNov 11
@balasubramanium their CEO is a massive bigot, that alone is enough reason to avoid them
Show threadAlysNov 11

@balasubramanium

This describes problems with the Brave browser: https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/

@v_d_richards

Stop using Brave Browser

Seriously.

The Spacebar
Show threadAlastair TempleNov 11
@v_d_richards @vkc the tldr is a load of crypto stuff and a homophobic founder (who also peddled nonsense around Covid).
Show threadI AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥Nov 11

@v_d_richards
"Other than the AI"

I think thats enough.
@vkc

Show threadViktoria D. Richards/UddelhexeNov 11

@xinit @vkc

That's right. But when i talk about this on my blog, i want to know all the reasons.

It will be hard for users who are not knee deep in software info, to slowly touch base with alternatives they have never heard of.
I oppose AI in software too and avoid, deactivate it or change the service wherever i can.

But for folks with only little mental ressources, this switching, tinkering, stop using can be too much.

So i try to collect info and bring it into easy to read lists

Show threadrk: it’s hyphen-minus actuallyNov 11

@v_d_richards @vkc

Brave is the latest project from Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and also famous for donating money to organizations trying to make same-sex marriage illegal (and saying lots of pretty words about how he’s nice to his gay colleagues without ever actually, like, saying gay people deserve equal rights). It also heavily leans into cryptocurrency shenanigans. (Apparently he was also an anti-masker and COVID truther, because of course he was.)

Show threadvurpo 🏳️‍⚧️Nov 12
@v_d_richards in addition to supporting AI, they also do cryptocurrency shit, and it's founded by the guy who got fired from mozilla for being homophobic