They got hit by Space Junk...

So, the Chinese space station crew is now stranded in space after a suspected collision with space junk. Is this the beginning of the Kessler Syndrome future that @sundogplanets's has been warning us about?

https://futurism.com/space/china-debris-struck-ship-space-station-astronauts

Are we approaching a point where putting humans into low earth orbit is simply too dangerous?

Kessler Syndrome: https://www.space.com/kessler-syndrome-space-debris

China Says Mystery Object Appears to Have Struck Ship That Its Space Station Astronauts Were Supposed to Return Home In

China was forced to postpone the return of three astronauts from its Tiangong space station following a suspected collision with space debris.

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@mastodonmigration

Not unless several pieces were knocked off the spacecraft, and more than one went - or go - on to knock pieces off another orbiting structure.

#Chain reaction.

#orbit
#space

@Photo55

Not how it works. Independent of whether this particular impact created more debris, the fact is that there is lots of other junk up there colliding with each other, and each impact has the potential to create more debris. This chain reaction is what constitutes the Kessler Syndrome cascade. It is a statistical thing. The more junk there is, the greater the probability of collisions, so the greater the probability of impacts that create more junk.

@mastodonmigration

(I think you've gone wrong around impact, and "potential to create more debris".

If each or most creates more debris, then _if the debris is not cleared away (half of it goes down toward atmosphere, half up initially, all sideways) it is a cascade, but this, thus far, is not the beginning of that.

Probably.

@Photo55

Again, this feels like reply guy nonsense, but will respond.

A. Every collision has the potential to create more debris by breaking the thing it hit into multiple pieces. It can also not create more debris (just punch a clean hole for instance), but there is a significant probability that it creates more. The more debris, the greater the chance of collisions and therefore the greater the chance of creating more debris. This is a cascade.

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@Photo55

B. You posit that there is a mechanism (deorbit) that reduces the amount of space junk faster than the cascade can get established. Granted that this is a possibility, but it is a very tricky thing because deorbit times are very long and we keep adding more and more space junk. The cascade is an exponential function and once it crosses a certain deorbit decay threshold will dominate, much as your analogy of a nuclear reaction once the control rods capacity is overshot.

@mastodonmigration

Yes. You asked if it had occurred. Based on one collision with one spacecraft.

It hasn't.

Yet.

Kessler, as noted in a couple of links on this decreasingly useful thread, worked all this out and wrote about it.

Now, working out the point of threshold, and if we are at it - or into criticality - is interesting;

And working out a way to step back from threshold is also interesting.

Like several of our problems eg climate - once it starts, we can't stop it.

@Photo55

Dismissing this as one collision is wordplay. There are an increasing number of collisions. Most of them do not cripple a spacecraft. They were even up there installing collision shields. Statistically once collisions of these sorts start to affect critical infrastructure we are already past the threshold where this should be considered a major problem.

@mastodonmigration

Interesting point. We assume there are an increasing number of collisions per year, and it seems plausible and alarming, but do we have an actual count?

https://www.esa.int/Space_Safety/Space_Debris/ESA_Space_Environment_Report_2025

ESA reports on debris, and it will take me a while to read the full 2025 report.

Proxies include the number of avoidance manoeuvres by the ISS, satellites and alas, not the Chinese one this time.

The summary suggests that efforts to reduce debris, and the re-entry of a lot from 2021, are helping.

ESA Space Environment Report 2025

@mastodonmigration

Some work has been done and published on residence time in orbit.
Small fragments low down - even at perigee - fall out quite quickly.

https://orbitaldebris.jsc.nasa.gov/faq/

I'm not a mathematician, but it is probably a time between collision problem rather than an amount.

Neal Stephenson's recent #SF novel #SevenEves as well as being well-worth reading does discuss the progression of a slow cascade from a single very large starting point in a larger volume.

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