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Democracy Dies in Dumbass Oct 29

@benroyce Ahh yes, "Diplomacy"

"#US ambassador to #Canada goes on expletive-laced tirade at #Ontario’s trade representative"

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Oct 29

@ShredderFeeder

my country is going rapidly down the toilet

partly because of #MAGA #fascist #bigots

and partly because of these cringe weak "but i want perfect" #nonvoters

yes, the #USA sucked before: that's a silly observation when you realize how much worse it can suck

you get better or worse in this life. that's all you will ever, ever, EVER get

perfect isn't on the menu. never will be

#vote you dumb motherfuckers

#politics

Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️Oct 29

@benroyce @ShredderFeeder

Asking for people to be better than the least of two evils is before voting for them is hardly demanding perfection. People need a system that allows them to vote for who they want not just who they don't want least.

@benroyce @ShredderFeeder

Deb Nam-Krane Oct 29

@the5thColumnist Wow, that sounds like people who regularly sit out municipal elections, where people you want are rarely if ever on the ballot. Those rare times you do find someone you want invariably end in disappointment because they *never* live up to your expectations. You vote for the least worst option anyway, otherwise you are letting a shockingly small number of people do it for you.

Choosing not to vote is a de facto vote.

@dnkboston @the5thColumnist @benroyce @ShredderFeeder

roblosricos Oct 30

"none of the above" should be an option on every ballot, and if None wins, the election must be held again, without the rejected candidates.

hell, even I'd vote.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Oct 30

@roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Yes I too like to go on social media and proclaim how things should be, then not do a fucking thing to make it happen, even the easiest fucking thing

@benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

roblosricos Oct 30

once again, for the people not paying attention -

i just spent 3 weeks at the ICE detention center, 24/7, being gassed and harassed, while you sat on your lazy ass at home.

i didn't get enough to eat most of that time.

i did this to stand up to fascists. as i have done my entire life.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Oct 30

@roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

If you voted, you fucking moron, you wouldn't have to do that

Unfollow me at least, a block is preferable

@benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

roblosricos Oct 30

fuck yourself, you order-giving fascist wannabe.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Oct 30

@roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Oh yeah, I'm a fascist because I want you to vote 🤣

@benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

roblosricos Nov 1

no, you're a fascist because the US has been a fascist state since 1946, and you've voted to keep it that way your whole life.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Nov 2

@roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Well yes the point is to vote and keep fascism out

What's failing us are the morons not voting and doing call of duty edgelord fantasy life of revolution. Having not the slightest fucking clue what that is really like. They are either violent idiots or agent provocateurs out to sabotage the left

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

So one point about that: If you want people to vote, you have make it:

A) Worth the effort (ie: votes actually mattering)

and

B) Not make their life a living hell.

Hint: Ask a "potential swing voter" in a "swing state" how the last year before election feels.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

why are we catering to people who don't care enough to understand the stakes to their own lives

in which case we're dealing with a moron, no brain (i'm not talking genius levels of political insight, but really obvious choices)

or people entitled and privileged enough that they don't care to do anything but whine

in which case we're dealing with an asshole, no heart

what do you think is actually served by such an approach?

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

First, I'm Danish, so I have grown up in country where 83 to 87% vote for parliament.

Second: Have you actually ever asked a friend, who is a "swing voter" in a "swing state", how many times they get accosted because of that designation and how much that can make life hell, almost constantly ?

Because if the insane voting system in USA, there is an enormous pressure on those "pivot voters", while much of the rest of the voters know that there is absolutely zero chance of their vote changing anything, because of where they live.

And the other part of it is that you dont have two-party system. You have a one-party system which cos-plays as a two-part system, and the voters are plenty smart to see right through that.

If you want to get people to vote, you have to change both of those aspects: Make all votes matter and give the voters a real choice.

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

"You have a one-party system which cos-plays as a two-part system"

ah, "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe"

Poul: that is an incredibly fucking stupid lie

you're danish?

would harris be making claims on greenland?

be honest

does it matter?

of course

so right there is something huge and concrete for your own concerns, nevermind domestic issues

so stop fucking lying Poul, and doing apologia for morons who believe really stupid lies

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

yelling at assholes buried in mindless lying cynicism, me, is not the problem

the entitled assholes buried in mindless lying cynicism is the problem

i say entitled because they are privileged enough to not care if trump wins, that it doesn't affect them

or they are that fucking stupid to believe it won't affect them

there is a difference that matters

not big enough?

some stupid fuck thinks they are going to get perfect?

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

It's really very simple:

No matter which party you vote for, the 1%'ers get richer and everybody else gets poorer.

All the rest is just play-acting and rearranging the deckchairs as far as I am concerned.

And really, Greenland ?

You know what that is about ?

Area(USA) + Area(Greenland) > Area(Canada)

Area(USA) + Area(Canada) > Area(Russia)

Yes, an orange man with a very small and predictable brain.

Deb Nam-Krane Nov 3

@phloggen Yes, but also gives Putin easier access to Canadian resources @benroyce @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

this is the rationale of the 1/3 in the usa that do not vote

another 1/3 is fascist and the final is sane

if the 1/3 who don't vote because "life sucks waaah" fucking voted, maybe we could do something about our problem

your entire rationale is cynicism

you realize cynicism is acceptance right?

do you like plutocracy?

no?

then why are you accepting it

that *is* what you're doing with your rationale

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

and yes to your observation about greenland poul

and???

do we accept it?

or do we make pessimistic posts and leave it at that? what is the fucking point of that?

besides, again, cynicism

which is what again poul?

that's right: acceptance

cynicism is acceptance

do you accept this bs?

no?

then you tell people to fucking #vote

right?

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

And you seem to have missed the important bit about me be Danish:

Never mind the effect of it, I dont even get a vote, but I have to live with the shitty consequences of what has gone on in your dysfunctional country for my entire life.

I'm Danish and yet my first memory of non-children television was the Vietnam war, and it has gone downhill from there.

So I have every right to be cynical, and to call your sorry excuse for a democracy a one-party system cosplaying as a two-party system.

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

then stop lecturing americans trying to fix things on the premise of your broken useless cynicism and your ignorance about how the stupid american voting system works

you're not helping

go get drunk and call americans assholes. we are

but don't think for a second anything you are writing here is going to fix the problem. since you're cynical, you don't even care about that, all you want to do is whine

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Said Every EU person to visit USA: "That could be such a wonderful place, if only they got their shit together for just one week!"

But if you think voting is going to get USA out of the mess, you are almost certainly wrong, and if you think voting for one of the existing parties will do it, you are very very wrong.

There are three ways USA can get out of the current mess and there's no telling how long that will take:

1. Military Coup. That is, after all, very much "The American Way". Probably not happening, too many fascists in uniform, but strictly speaking the have sworn to do so, in a situation like now.

2. Somebody untainted by current politics and widely known and trustworthy runs for a new third party. This is the Havel/Wałęsa/Zelensky model. Colbert can probably pull it off.

3. California leaves, USA. They're big enough. Some NE states may join Canada. The technical term is "civil war.

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

you know poul, i've been treating you with kid gloves

gloves off

you sit there, happily posting from denmark, dictating to americans boring mediocre cynicism and

1. not to vote and do a fucking *coup*(!?)

3. do 3rd party (doesn't work in an fptp voting system, but you're ignorant)

4. dissolution of the usa(!?)

poul:

do me a favor and never speak of american politics again

you are an idiot

please stop following me

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

1. By all means vote, but never vote against your own interests, which means dont vote for the 1%'ers sock-puppets, no matter what they call their party.

2. I can count.

3. You do know that the current two parties in USA are not the same as the first two parties in USA, right ? Even in a shitty system like yours, change can happen.

4. »When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another[…]«

It doesn't say "single use only"

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

obviously there are fascists as a problem

but then there is also this lumpenproletariat like poul regurgitating easy lazy cynicism and thinking "i'm helping!"

you're sitting in denmark lecturing americans to dissolve the country, have a fucking coup, or do 3rd party in an fptp voting system

*all of that only helps the fascists, genius*

you lack the care or intelligence to see how

stop talking about what you don't understand

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Ben, there is this thing called "perspective", and one of the ways you can get one, is by being an observant outsider.

There is also "lack of perspective" which often happens to people so deeply on the inside, that they no longer think an outside exists or matters.

I do think I have some perspective, I have lived in USA, my kids have USAnian mother and are dual citizens, and I have been forced to powerlessly observe USA closely for all my life.

You on the other hand lack perspective, so much so, that you cannot even imagine a third party existing, much less that USA could ever reconfigure, and you curse the voters, many of which saw clearer than you, that voting for either party would not improve things for them.

But I understand why you're upset, but anger wont win you a "Velvet Revolution".

And since I'm quite sure you have no idea what that is: Look it up, it's USA's best chance.

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

you want us to have a coup, to dissolve the country, or vote 3rd party in an fptp voting system which helps maga win

i instantly lost all respect for you for posting that

you don't have perspective

you're an idiot

don't worry about my request to you to unfollow me, i forced you to unfollow me already

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Thanks!

You were getting pretty tiresome to have in my feed.

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

bye idiot

@benroyce @phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

crumbletiltskin Nov 3

Poor Ben, still thinking that voting is somehow going to correct the situation.

Deb Nam-Krane Nov 3

@crumbletiltskin And poor you, thinking abstaining will fix anything @benroyce @phloggen @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

@phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

a mediocre cynicism reply and immediate block from crumbletiltskin

coward

running away from dealing with a poster on mastodon?

morons who think mass murder on the street is the solution, also being such incoherent cowards, says everything we need to know about their edgelord pathetic cosplaying

all the while watching what mamdani is doing

😂

Deb Nam-Krane Nov 3

@phloggen I don't have words for how bad the idea of secession is. As a wiser woman than I noted, the federal government would just let us keep valuable property like the kind that exists in NY, CA, and the other blue states? No. @benroyce @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

@dnkboston @benroyce @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Of course a civil war would be bad!

But that doesn't mean it's not going to happen if the shit-show is not stopped any other way.

@phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

and at the same time, you're proposing a coup or a dissolution of the usa

pick a lane, deep thinker

do you want us murdering each other in the streets yes or no?

because you're in another comment saying you're looking forward to it

this is how i lost all respect for you

@benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Another outside perspective.

It's american exceptionalism again. Somehow the US threat to democracy is completely unique, never happened before or elsewhere. Nope. It is uniquely bad, and impossible to solve politically, by voting. Nope, it's a one way fast lane to hell (or cosplaying armed revolution heaven) and we better give up beforehand.

@benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

How TF do these people think democracy works? By refusing to participate because the system is flawed? Yeah, that'll show them!!

@benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Also also... WTF people, you do know that people dies for the right to vote, Have died. But you can't stand the indignity of voting for someone far from ideal. Perspective please!

As a last resort: PLEASE vote for the lesser evil for us poor bastards in the rest of the world. We have to live with your choice, or your laziness.

@benroyce @phloggen @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Deb Nam-Krane Nov 4

@annavirrpanna Thank you, thank you! The GOP has been jonesing for decades to undermine the Voting Rights Act, among the most recent that people were killed over. Writing in Donald Duck would be more respectful to them than staying home.

But somehow I don't think these would-be anarchist clowns care about that...

Lynn McAlister UE

Nov 4

@annavirrpanna @benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder That's how Trump got reelected.

@lmgenealogy @benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Yes! And yet several people, on this thread, keep arguing for not voting. Mindblowingly irresponsible, and selfish and just...

@lmgenealogy @benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

I refuse to believe that they actually believe it would be as bad as now with another president in your country. That's Trump voter-levels of stupid!

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Nov 4

@annavirrpanna @lmgenealogy @phloggen @dnkboston @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

some nonvoters are just that stupid

some of these anti-voting accounts you see are fake accounts, doing a purposeful troll farm psyop to achieve the intended effect: weaken the left turnout to help trump

and then some of them are victims of said psyop, thinking they are doing something "principled" because they fell for the lying manipulative bullshit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6VNa1pMpQ

Deb Nam-Krane Nov 5

@benroyce All of you who are not engaged in disinformation campaigns will like this. I rarely share YouTube links, but this is worth it.

@annavirrpanna @lmgenealogy @phloggen @roblosricos @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

You Know Who Votes All the Time? Racists!

YouTube

Democracy Dies in Dumbass Nov 5

@annavirrpanna

Well, trump DOES love the poorly educated....

I guess that includes the ones who don't vote for him hut are too stupid to do something actually effective....

@lmgenealogy @benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @[email protected] @the5thColumnist

@annavirrpanna @benroyce @phloggen @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

roblosricos Nov 13

democracy works by ALWAYS creating a minority to oppress. and that's what you vote for, every time.

like: "they're killing protesters!"

voters: "that has to stop!"

later: "they're killing homeless people!"

voters: "they are following the (anti-homeless) laws."

@annavirrpanna @benroyce @phloggen @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Deb Nam-Krane Nov 13

@roblosricos Excuse me, but over a week later, shut up. I don't know which straw man voter you're talking about, but it's not me. And don't use "homeless" like it's some kind of gotcha word you think will make your point; it's just making you look like a dehumanizing jerk.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Nov 13

@roblosricos @annavirrpanna @phloggen @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

just wait until rob figures out how other forms of government work

rob the political science professor is in for an exciting voyage of discovery about oppression in non-democratic societies

would you like to tell us how homelessness is handled in authoritarian societies rob? go ahead, scholar rob, educate us fools

@benroyce @annavirrpanna @phloggen @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

roblosricos Nov 20

shit-for-brains, i am experiencing homelessness in the USA.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Nov 20

@roblosricos @annavirrpanna @phloggen @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

rob, no one has a problem with your words because you are experiencing homelessness. i am sorry that you're homeless

the point is homelessness is not unique to democracy. homelessness sucks everywhere. in russia you can be shipped off to murder/ be murdered in ukraine. in china if you are not in the hukou system you're persona non grata for social services. other countries have it better, some worse than the usa

Democracy Dies in Dumbass Nov 21

@benroyce

I've been homeless in the past... I've been VERY homeless....

Sometimes the only fix for homelessness is taking all your anger and putting it into not being homeless anymore...

When Rob masters channeling his anger into something useful instead of being pissed off on social media, well then he might stand a chance...

But since vivaldi.net is defederated on my server, he's not going to see this message...

@[email protected] @annavirrpanna @phloggen @dnkboston @the5thColumnist

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Nov 21

@ShredderFeeder @annavirrpanna @phloggen @dnkboston @the5thColumnist

rob is entitled to any opinion he wants

i will meet him at his opinion

if his opinion is related to homelessness i will defer to his lived experience and not be so arrogant as to assume my opinion has more value than his. but if his opinion is not on homelessness, but on comparative social safety nets in other countries, my knowledge is as good as his. unless rob has experience being homeless in other countries. do you rob?

@benroyce @ShredderFeeder @annavirrpanna @phloggen @dnkboston @the5thColumnist

roblosricos Nov 24

i don't give a fuck about social safety nets in other countries. how does that affect me in the slightest?

last saturday, the police took everything from me. i didn't even have a sleeping bag to curl up in, and couldn't replace mine for three days.

so forgive me if i'm feeling especially bitter and hate-filled at the moment.

Deb Nam-Krane Nov 25

@roblosricos I'm so sorry @benroyce @ShredderFeeder @annavirrpanna @phloggen @the5thColumnist

roblosricos Nov 24

@ShredderFeeder

fuck you! you have no idea what i've suffered through the past 10 years. ten years of my life! what have i got to show for all the optimism, all the hope i had when i had everything i needed to turn my life around, only to have it all disappear because of asshole neighborhood watchers, other homeless people, and the police taking it all away from me? my deteriorating health? my disappearing teeth?

you know, for over a year, i could not regularly brush my teeth, because people would come to my camp and steal my toothbrushes, my toothpaste! i rarely was able to brush my teeth twice in a month. do you know how much money i wasted on oral hygeine products in that time? just to have everything disappear within days?

and, that was ALL they took from me, during something like 16 months.

take your pollyanna attitude and shove it up your ignorant, stupid ass, you useless piece of shit!

SouprMatt Nov 3

@phloggen @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder LOLOL you put forward 3 ideas that are completely batshit crazy and infinitely MORE difficult than just getting people out to vote.

Thanks for the laughs.

@roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

@phloggen
Yes to the orange Shitgibbon it was about growing the US, but that does not answer the core question @benroyce was asking: Would Harris have done that or even said she wanted to do that?

It might not be much, but it is a difference between the 'two parties'. But that too misses the point, if the mentally deficients had voted, perhaps we would have had Harris or even a third party president...
1/2

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

@phloggen
Remember, roughly 40% of eligible voters chose not to vote, that means that the rest of the candidates combined had 60%, of which Chump got 49%... AKA roughly 30% of eligible voters, meaning those 40% could have elected whoever the hell they wanted and in their stupidity chose to stay home.

@nikatjef @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

Cursing the people who probably most desire change, for not voting in an election that would not give them any, does not make any sense.

USA needs a 3rd party which is not beholden to the 1%'ers.

Create that, and will guarantee you the 40% will come running to vote for it.

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

@phloggen
A very little known fact about the US party system: it is not set in stone. To create a new party simply requires starting one. And to get federal funding / support merely requires 6% voter turn-out. The US actually has more than 10 parties on the books. The libertarian party and the communist party are two of the biggest, but they tend to be a bit disorganized and fail to register their candidates properly.

Bamboy Nov 3

@nikatjef
...do you know how much money each party spends on advertising and on the campaign trail?
Huge swaths of the money for each party are from corporate donors too, to get them to invest in policies that benefit them.

Making a third party is not feasible; nobody else will be able to compete. They've already siphoned most of the money from our economy.

@bamboy
No, it's really not. The only reason the Communist party and the Libertarian parties don't get on the debate stage is that they are only competing in major races. But if they started competing down ballot, the media would start to cover them, then they would start winning mid-ballot seats and within two or three general cycles they would be on the big stage because the media would have to cover them. We have seen this happen multiple times over the last 40 years.

@bamboy
A great anti-example of this was the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and his cult back Oregon back in the '80s

Bamboy Nov 4

@nikatjef
95% of the "media" is controlled by the same corporations/billionaires that have broken the system for their own gains in the first place.

If they choose to not cover a story, most Americans will not hear the news story. Likewise if they choose to paint bias into a story.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just very unlikely and would need drastic & broad action for systemic change.

All our systems started slowly going toward capitalistic oligarchy thanks to Ronald Regan.

Bamboy Nov 4

@nikatjef
Frankly the number of blatant lies Fox News puts out is absurd. Stomach churning.

And its not like liberal medias are *much* better. MSNBC blatantly lied about the genocide happening in Palestine and other stuff.

They all serve one thing: The state, and to keep the people reasonably focused on anything but what evils the American gov is doing at home & abroad.

It's been so for decades, only now capitalism is dying and fighting to stay alive at any cost.

Bamboy Nov 4

@nikatjef
...and a third party assumes a fair election w/ a voting system that isn't tampered with... which it 100% was in 2016 by Russia, and there's a whole lot of BS shenanigans with elections thanks to gerrymandering and our electoral college.

2024 Musk was offering a lottery for people who recruited voters for Trump. Highly illegal. He was never prosecuted. All kinds of BS like that is sliding, because:

Money = Power

✨ If you have enough money, the rules get to be different for you. ✨

@benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

@phloggen
I am not cursing them, I am insulting them for the choices *THEY* made. I have pointed out multiple times that their voting can make a difference, they chose to believe it can't... Sorry, but that is not on me, it is on them.

@phloggen @nikatjef @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

so you're depending upon people who can't reason their way out of a wet paper back, and elicit an amount of care akin to spitting on the street, and you think great passion is what motivates them?

nevermind you have NO FUCKING CLUE how our shitty fptp voting system works, but still think you have a right to comment on what you don't understand

SouprMatt Nov 3

@phloggen @nikatjef @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder I hate to tell you this, but you don’t understand the first thing about US politics.

Thanks for the tips and advice (aka pipe dreams and vapid platitudes) but they are worthless since you can’t comprehend even the basics of our system.

PS - We had a well-funded 3rd candidate in 1992 and it only increased voter turnout by 5% from the previous election.

PPS - You’re claiming that people who most desire change don’t vote? IMO they must not desire it very much if they won’t even get off their couch. Like, if you REALLY desire change and your answer is to sit around and whine instead of AT LEAST voting? Nah you just don’t give a 💩.

@mls14 @nikatjef @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

You seem to confuse "well-funded" and "popular" ?

SouprMatt Nov 3

@phloggen @nikatjef @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder Ross Perot got 20 million votes, basically destroying the campaign of GW Bush for a 2nd term. He was pretty popular.

Which you’d know if you knew anything about US politics.