Stepping down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

We are Tommi and Fraxinas, Framework Linux Community Ambassadors since September 2024.

We apprehensively followed the developments and the debate concerning Framework’s endorsement and support of Omarchy. We have no direct experience with this Linux distribution, its community, nor with the political environment around it. We did not speak up before now because learning about all of it and keeping up with all the commentary would have been a full-time job. Unfortunately we do not have the time to read every single comment on the dedicated forum thread.

Despite our admittedly limited and superficial understanding of this matter, we believe we have witnessed and read enough to make an informed decision and take a clear position.

The statements from Framework and from Nirav Patel (its CEO) made it very clear for us that Framework is not a company we feel represented by any more, and surely not a company that we want to represent as Ambassadors.

To be frank, it is not even necessary to dive into the petty drama about the recent events in order to provide an explanation of our decision. We are deeply disappointed by a company that is self-proclaimed as the resistance of the tech industry, the good David that intends to stand against the big tech Goliaths that are devouring it. Framework’s behaviour brought to surface an embarrassing and absurd inability to take an explicitly political position, blinded by the Western patriarchal narrative that technology in itself is not political. By trying to keep everyone happy (or at least not to make anyone mad) inside a fictitious “big tent”, the company proved to be no better than any of its Silicon Valley peers, dismissing comments about DHH, and comments about fascism and racism as not strictly related to the main mission.

We were proud to be ambassadors because we believed that Framework not only made products that empowered those who purchase them to fully own and repair their devices, but most importantly because we wrongly expected that this would imply changing the paradigm and the narrative about tech companies altogether.

We were offered the possibility of having a 1:1 conversation with Nirav Patel. We did not take it, because it is self-evident that our opinions are in contrast with the statements that he already made. Too bad, Framework is going to lose much more business than it would have if it simply acknowledged a mistake, took a deep inward look, and questioned its own values and stance.

In a world that is burning, thorn by conflict and greed, it is not enough to be “less evil”, to be radical only in some cases, and be moderate in others. We wanted to be ambassadors of a company that does not see fascism and proprietary software as two distant topics, but that recognised the entanglement of politics and technology, of capitalism and authoritarianism. It seems that this is not the case.

Farewell, Framework. We will miss the shining brave idea we had of you.

@tommi and @fraxinas

The following statement was cross-posted on Framework’s Community Forum.

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@tommi thanks for this very clear breakdown. It's the best one Ive seen so far.

It is too bad, as they seemed like the best players in the space we had.

Question remains for me then... Where to now? What hardware company embodies what framework did, without the dark side?

@codemonkeymike if we could only fork @frameworkcomputer as it regularly happens with OpenSource projects when there's a need for it 🤷😥

@tommi

@eliasp @codemonkeymike @frameworkcomputer @tommi MNT Research (https://mntre.com/) have open source laptop, with all the schematics freely available on their website
MNT Research GmbH

MNT Research makes open source hardware laptops, mobile devices and keyboards that are modular and repairable. Designed and assembled in Berlin, EU.

@gkrnours @eliasp @codemonkeymike @frameworkcomputer And in contrast to a Framework computer, in case MNT ever does something you sincerely dislike so much that you never want to buy anything from them again, you can *literally* just fork their work and build your own. This is not possible with a Framework computer as many seem to be realizing only now. Framework never was the open hardware that many advertised it for. The MNT Reform on the other hand has been that from the beginning.
@josch @eliasp @codemonkeymike Josch, do you know if there was reform laptop built from people outside MNT? I think this happened but I might be mixing up with the tangara.
@gkrnours @eliasp @codemonkeymike You are mixing it up with the right people because @jacqueline was the one who built a reform motherboard from its kicad sources (even in purple!)
@josch @gkrnours @eliasp @codemonkeymike @jacqueline jacqueline built a complete forked reform incl customizations to motherboard and keyboard

And I wouldn't expect their CEO (https://mastodon.social/@mntmn) to get lost like Nirav Patel did.

@josch @gkrnours @eliasp @codemonkeymike @frameworkcomputer

Hope @mntmn geht a model without mechanical keyboard and get thinner. A higher display resolution would be also nice.


@wonka @josch @gkrnours @eliasp @codemonkeymike @frameworkcomputer
@genofire The problem of "no mechanical keyboard" is that then you are back at "the thing cannot be forked" which this sub-thread is about. With a mechanical keyboard you can order a populated PCB somewhere, solder your favourite switches to it and add keycaps of your choice. There is a big community out there which create their own mechanical keyboards. With normal thin rubber dome laptop keyboards, you cannot build one yourself. About thin reform, check out this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/mnt-reform-next
MNT Reform Next

A new 12.5" open hardware laptop that is future-proof, modular, and highly performant

Crowd Supply

@gkrnours @eliasp @frameworkcomputer @tommi I think these things are cool, no doubt.. but a chonky arm laptop isn't the same as something x86 and sleeker like the Framework.

Someday i'd love to play with an MNT, but not sure its daily driveable for someone like me yet.

@codemonkeymike @eliasp @tommi macbook are arm laptop. While sure the classic and pocket are chunky with their 4cm thickness, the MNT reform next will be only 2.5cm. For context, the thinkpad x220 was 3.5cm.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. If you want a sleek x86, you can get a great deal on a refurbished dell laptop. If you want a laptop you can repair and modify, MNT publish their sources.

@gkrnours @codemonkeymike @eliasp @tommi I mostly wait for new SOCs, current MNT looks amazing and I'd love it, but it currently lacks performance I need from a daily driver laptop :(
@shine I have a pocket reform with an i.MX 8M plus and yeah, it's rather slow. From what I read, the rcore RK3588 is decent and it's what ship with both new pocket and classic reform but I haven't seen any benchmark
@gkrnours still a bit too slow. But the Quasar SOC they are testing right now gives me hope :)
@shine @gkrnours im interested in those too. i saw one in person and having LiPo cells in there is awesome. makes replacing later easy

@tammeow @shine And the LiPo cells aren't glued :3

The reform classic and soon to be released reform next come with 18650 battery LiFePO4. This format is much easier to replace. The chemistry have a bit less capacity at equal size/volume but have more recharge cycle meaning they won't degrade as fast. Some people have put LiPo 18650 in a reform classic but also Na-ion (rather new stuff, made without lithium, lower capacity)

@gkrnours @eliasp @tommi ohh i fully agree with you. And I love refurb and used laptops. BUT my point is, we can't pretend Dell or Lenovo are wonderfully ethical companies. So while you're not paying the directly, someone did and you're still buying it.

Ethically seems like a blurry line for me. But alas.. I DO hope to check out a MNT at some point.

I still have 1 or 2 apps that dont work natively on arm yet (sadly)

@gkrnours @eliasp @codemonkeymike @frameworkcomputer @tommi I'm definitely interested in that as a possible replacement for a Framework.
@gkrnours @eliasp @codemonkeymike @frameworkcomputer @tommi Ok yeah definitely looking into it. Looks like their configuration doesn't exploit the full power of the RK3588 module they're using, at least for display capabilities, but I bet that can be remedied.
@aspensmonster small team. They are experimenting with external GPU (https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/115498938494981234) and they have a prototype for a moduld based on the Qualcomm Dragonwing QCS6490