florgeWhy isn't the rest of the world doing anything about the USA?
I think they’re just keeping their heads down and not poking the bear. He’s already blindly striking out at imaginary percieved insults. They’re just riding out the next few years and hoping to not make anything worse.
Plus, it’s not their job. It’s the US’s job to clean up the bed they shit in.
BombOmOmYeah, from the world’s perspective, this is a problem that solves itself in a few years. Plus, the idea of ‘doing something’ about a country is not a very common action. The most common action is to ignore the BS best you can, focus on building up allies, and focus on building up your own country.
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NotSteve_The corrupt politicians of the world want to enable his idiocracy to make their own poor behaviour seem more socially acceptable internationally.
\[DUMBASS]/Woah woah woah, we’re not here to fix your fuck ups, that’s your problem to get rid of, we’re just trying to not get nuked by a pants shitting pedophile Nazi.
Most international markets run thru NYC, and thus America.
So while other countries can sanction, everyone that could make that call has money in rates in NYC and would risk personally being sanctioned.
It’s a huge fucking deal, and silver lining is other countries are most likely taking steps to become more independent.
Which is a good thing over all.
It’s kind of like the Fediverse really…
Current market is basically Facebook era. Everyone is using NYC, so if you get “banned” you lose access to a lot of stuff.
The Fediverse splits the load, and if banned from an instance you just lose the slice that didn’t like whatever you did.
I got a assume that other countries are doing it, since even now Texas is doing it:
The Texas exchange hopes to benefit from companies that are frustrated with regulations like Nasdaq’s Board Diversity Rule, and increasing compliance costs that come with listing on the exchanges, the Journal reported.
investopedia.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-…
So the rest of the world is freaking out Conservatives control the American market, and conservatives are also freaking out they control the American market…
bitofaramblerThere are 200 countries and the US is one relatively small, isolated pocket making terrible decisions and hurting themselves. Many countries hurt themselves and the US is just one of them.
US problems benefit their rivals immensely and is influencing their allies to become more independent and form new local alliances, there’s no benefit to anyone to long jump into one isolated hornet’s nest.
Sanctions are specifically difficult against the US because 1) they’re largely hurting themselves, most countries don’t agree the US is doing the wrong thing about Palestine/ foreign/other policy to warrant sanctions and 2) the US has so much, albeit dwindling, legacy political and financial/banking influence that sanctions won’t make much of an impact.
If your dog starts defecating on the floor and rolling around in it, you clean up your dog.
If your neighbor starts defecating on their floor and rolling around in it, well…
And when your neighbor starts defecating in your house and also all your other neighbors houses and also onto their own wife and children in plain view of everyone else, daring them to do something all while their armies and aircraft carriers point in every direction including at themselves?
I think the answer is still you do nothing. But man would I like to be wrong on this one.
Do yu mean Russia? Their attacks have resulted in external military buildup near borders, NATO assurances, local military alliances.
Russia’s aggression directly harms and threatens other nearby countries.
Different measures for different circumstances.
Sure. I’m not trying to say the US and Russia are equivalent in the volume nor nature of how they implement imperialist and domestic violence (though there are increasingly more similarities as of late). But I perceive the US as a crazed madman with as many arms as Shiva and has amassed more weapons than anyone else, with a gun pointed at the head of everyone in every direction, including at it’s own head. I also view other imperialist nations as having a similar psychosis going on, just with a few less arms and very different origin stories as to how they got there.
I’m just saying telling everybody it’s solely up to the nation to clean up its own mess is, while correct, way too simplistic. I admittedly don’t know how we solve it though, and I’m cynical enough to believe most of us don’t have an answer, and even if we did, we wouldn’t have a strong enough consensus and momentum to pull it off. Hence why I believe nothing will be done.
We, the citizens in these imperialist nations are both slaves and slave masters, with guns pointed to our heads, by both nation states and corporations, they don’t just control whether we live or die, they hold our hearts in their hands, ready to squeeze out our humanity and empathy at their discretion. We in turn wield the whip at our own slaves in those countries in which we colonize. We all have this done to us and do it unto others until we look in the mirror and mistake the monsters we have become as the best humanity has to offer.
EDIT: spelling, grammar, wording.
Thanks. I appreciate simple, correct solutions and I understand why emotional investment and habit makes those solutions difficult to accept and implement.
If you take a step outside of your situation, it will quickly become apparent that the grip you believe others hold you in is largely insubstantial and based on empty proclamations and threats. Magnates can plead for your attention, but you don’t have to give it to them(climb a mountain, play video games), your government can scream for your taxes and you don’t have to hand them over(IRS form 2555, foreign earned income exclusion).
The world is huge and no matter how important someone demands you think they are, they’re wrong.
Look, I wish I had your viewpoint, but truth be told I have no plan of leaving my homeland. Imperialist fascsism comes for us all eventually, and that’s kind of my point. You, me, all of us, actually have got nowhere to run. You either fight or succumb. But my take on life is that I live solely to spite my enemies, not because I believe I can beat them, but because I refuse to make victory easy for them. Perhaps I’m wrong, perhaps we can win this fight and solve the climate crisis, but I’ll not get my hopes up. Only spite remains that stirs me from my bed in the morning now.
In this way, my enemies control me, they define me. I am nothing without them now. Such is the horror of imperialist fascism, they do not relent, they are never satiated, and they do not ignore any corner of the world. And so it consumes me.
Eventually the world’s problems end up at your doorstep, whether you had a hand in creating them or not. I just refuse to look away.
I hear you and understand your resignation; tender despair is very common and the result of those whirlwind insubstantial threats and proclamations.
You don’t have to leave your spite behind, most don’t, and I’m not telling you to; I’m letting people know that if they want to live for themselves and others rather than dying for their enemies, it’s possible and I’m here to help.
Yeah, I can’t trust you. Your community you founded is some strange travel blog that gives off marketing vibes. If you try to sell me something, I immediately am suspicious. Sorry, blocking you now.
My information does not require trust; it’s all based on publicly available resources.
Go ahead, confirm IRS form 2555 for yourself.
Ass traveler, I have a travel community, nothing strange about that
I haven’t tried to sell a thing, and I have months of legitimate conversation, travel advice and information publicly available for scrutiny.
thier propaganda machine mostly is working better than thier military. backed right wing governments into supporting things russia wants to happen(anti-immigration, wokeness, racism,etc)
…you call for a welfare check on them? I mean, clearly there’s some mental issues going on with your neighbor.
But what are you going to do? Go over there yourself??? Whoa whoa whoa whoa! Easy buddy. This is America. They probably have a gun, and are already proven to be mentally unstable! Plus, they’re covered in shit! I just cleaned my dog. I don’t want to smell MORE shit!
Yup, that’s basically what has happened.
Political leaders and journalists have visited and done “welfare checks” on the US, and came to the same conclusions you just have.
dog if you think the US is “relatively small”
look at what Nazi Germany, an even “smaller” country did – it started a world war and nearly took over an entire continent.
the fascist US, with a much larger influence, is an existential threat to the world.
The US looks bigger and more influential from the inside. Its tantrums look tiny and rambunctious from out here.
i think the most dangerous mistake one can make is to underestimate the power of a military budget that’s almost half that of the world’s military budget.
such mistakes can be made only once before the country gets couped or taken hostage by the US.
in these times i think it’s important to band together and set aside our differences!
I don’t think you understand where US military power was coming from. It was not just the money, it was the ability to project that power easily (having bases in Europe, etc for example).
That was the ‘soft power’ everyone was talking about. Orange mongoloid had now destroyed that and I don’t think it’s coming abxk any time soon.
Everyone is basically letting idiots destroy themselves and watching their moves. There is nothing anyone else can do right now.
Except Chinese and Russians. They are rolling on the floor laughing…
CileTheSaneWhat do you expect other countries to do? A preemptive strike?
BaroqueInMindSounding extremely privileged.
Without doxxing yourself, what country are you from to say something like that and be assured you are safe from U.S. influence and shenanigans?
I’m being serious. I want to move away and be safe with you over there.
There are no failsafe safety assurances anywhere, but some places are safer and more comfortable than others.
I’m originally from the US and have mostly been living abroad for over a decade since I left over many of the issues US Americans still deal with today
Perspective on the US is much more clear from the outside.
If you’d like to live abroad, I can definitely help you do that with information and advice, I’ve helped several other Americans move abroad.
tldr is get a passport, secure $500 USD in monthly income (English teaching is currently in high demand), buy a plane ticket.
Someone from the US I’ve been offering advice to this year literally left the US today based on that tldr.
I’m very happy to go into details and supply more context for anybody interested in living abroad.
Key words: so far.
The last time the US enacted global tariffs, it caused the Great Depression.
The US is an existential threat to Canada and countries in the Americas that MAGA has bones to pick with. Maybe also Iran. The vast majority of the world is mostly safe, because America has no interest and/or capability to start shit there. For your Germany example, Hitler made it clear exactly what he wanted to do in Mein Kampf.
To us Europeans, the US also feels like a threat because it means an ally less against Russia.
You’re extremely naïve if you think the rest of the world is safe.
So the US is a threat because... it might not help Europe? That's not really how the word "threat" works, setting aside how Russia isn't even a military threat to non-Ukraine Europe in the first place assuming the EU's mutual defense mechanism holds.
In war, if it’s not an ally it’s an enemy.
If the us is not an ally it’s an enemy.
That’s a threat.
That’s the fucking reality of real war. So if shit hits the fan yes. The US is a threat to the EU.
In war, if it's not an ally it's an enemy.
Uh... no?
putin benefits from countries becoming isolationists to some sort. so russia can eventually take over ukraine, and move onto other former soviet block countries.
The last time the US enacted global tariffs, it created the Great Depression, which hit the entire globe and was one of the major contributing factors to the Nazis rise to power. What happens here might only be hurting Americans and killing American minorities at the moment, but the psychotic demagogue in charge here will have real international repercussions soon enough. Honestly though, I think the tariffs have done what international sanctions couldn’t do, which is help convince some of Trump’s cult that he’s the one hurting them. Sanctions would just let him blame the outside world.
You should keep in mind, it will take time for everybody else to truly divest themselves of the orange shit-gibbon and all the corporations based here, and that means time in which the fan spraying shit can turn towards Europe.
How the fuck do you consider one of the largest countries, in literally every physical, economical, military, and basically every other metric… Small?
The fuck crack are you smoking. Cause that’s some good shit.
The world is muvh, much bigger than one sparsely populated country, and there are far more important metrics than the physical size of the US.
Metrics like population, geographic isolation, health care, political instability, violent crime, countless others that define a country, mark the US as an entity to be safely disregarded.
Thailand passed the US in health care years ago, China passed the US in renewable and next-gen tech, not to mention manufacturing, most countries citizens enjoy much more robust civil rights.
Yes, the physical country is large, but the US is s small, insecure, violent pocket of the world that people don’t need to pay nearly as much attention to as its groupies demand.
The US looks very tiny from out here, and even tinier from the inside after seeing some of the rest of the world.
「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)Xi Jingping, Putin, and Trump are all having a feast with each other, meanwhile their respective countries’ citizens starve. We have more in common with the average people across borders than with our own leaders.
To some extent, this has always been true.
It’s just that right now it’s worse than ever
Because there’s nothing to do anything about. Why would they be sanctioned?
trump is literally issuing sanctions on his own citizens and they applaud him for it. i don’t think sanctions will work here 🤷♂️
whalerossThe rest of the world has done various responses to the American trade war. Most everybody else has found other partners to do business with and those that haven’t are soon about to. America is not hurting other countries economically as much as they are hurting themselves. The entire ICE thing is terrible and it is too bad the government agencies have given in and that the military seems to be rolling with it too. But it is still domestic affairs as long there isn’t any proof of concentration camps or massacres or the like. We have lots of empathy for the people in America suffering from all of this.
But then again…
You guys have free elections and this is your democratically elected leader doing what he promised to do. You guys had him elected after he staged a failed coup once already. What do you expect the rest of the world to do about it? To save you guys from yourselves?
Never fails to surprise me that there are people in the US who expect the world to fix this for them. Sorry, it’s your country, you’ll have to figure out how to take it back. In the mean time the rest of us will work out new trade deals with other countries and arm ourselves in case your government decides to take their shit across the border.
The OP is on reddit.uk, so most likely not an American.
The question is also just that, a question. Not an expectation.
Also worth noting that it is “everyone’s problem” as soon as US turns his military against other countries.
For now it is Venezuela and maybe Nigeria,
But here at South America we are “bracing for impact” even though we aren’t Venezuela per se.
Trump already told he wants to annex Canada, Panama, Greenland and Vance already vented his distaste against Europe.
It is just a matter of time before US turns against Europe.
And then it will suddenly be a “World’s problem” because it only is a problem when the western civilization gets the wrong end of the stick.
Look, as an American, all I’m asking for is a little extrajudicial redition of Musk and Thiel by South Africa. If we could just get rid of some of the malevolent billionaires that have made the pilgrimage to the land of greed, we might stand a chance of holding on to some of our civil liberties.
Seems like Canada is making an impact.
It may not be official sanctions but If there’s any credence to the news, it seems like there are movements to fund more reliable trading partners. It’s tough to make an immediate impact but we’ll see over time how much we’ve screwed ourselves. Will Canadian snowbirds come back? Will China (or anyone) buy our soybeans? Will manufacturers, such as for automobiles, be able to stay in business?
Will Canadian snowbirds come back?
Unlikely. The USA was already quite hated in Canada for the arrogance and exceptionalism of its citizens but this whole thing has sort of sealed the deal for most people here
The US was already mildly disliked for that general civilian arrogance but most Canadians overlooked it say 15 to 20 years ago. Now when American arrogance is recognized, its seen as unequivocally contentious vs. being harmlessly obnoxious.
I’ve met several Americans that seemed to think the financial might of Wall St or the sacred reverence with which they hold their constitution somehow made their existence more meaningful, fulfilling or even valid. They had the genuine belief that everyone wanted to be in their position even though their specific material circumstances were often worse and their priorities were warped in many ways.
From a Canadian perspective I might have put my hand on their shoulder and said “Cool”. Now I’d put my hand on their shoulder and say “You’re stupid” which is many ways more grace than some deserve.
US "allies" haven't gotten the memo yet, US enemies aren't going to interrupt America while it's killing itself and non-aligned nations don't give a shit.