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StarkRGI know I've said this before, but the common autistic trait of an overdeveloped sense of justice is looking at it from the wrong direction. It's not that autistics are overly sensitive to injustice, it's that allistics are overly callous to it. The world would be a significantly better place if more people gave more of a shit about what others are going through.
Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama@StarkRG @autistics
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like, they think they're getting away with something, they think they've got some clever hack going, like, "Sure, good is good and bad is bad, but hear me out, what IIFFFF . . . "
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like, they think they're getting away with something, they think they've got some clever hack going, like, "Sure, good is good and bad is bad, but hear me out, what IIFFFF . . . "
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fools 💔
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as though all the moral education all kids get never happened, as if I just invented the fuckin' ten commandments.
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They really are impossible. 😈
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as though all the moral education all kids get never happened, as if I just invented the fuckin' ten commandments.
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They really are impossible. 😈
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Primo@StarkRG @autistics I'm pretty sure if You'd approach allistics and tell them they're unjust, are easy to bribe or whatever they'd feel at least a little bit insulted.
It's like, they have values, but think it's okay not to adhere to them, but also know that not adhering or not having these values is not good.
It's like, they have values, but think it's okay not to adhere to them, but also know that not adhering or not having these values is not good.
HighlandLawyer@Primo @StarkRG @autistics
Though studies have shown allistic people will tend to do the right thing if they believe someone is watching them.
So if one could get them all to believe in an invisible all-seeing someone who will judge them if they do bad things...
Though studies have shown allistic people will tend to do the right thing if they believe someone is watching them.
So if one could get them all to believe in an invisible all-seeing someone who will judge them if they do bad things...
@HighlandLawyer I see several problems with that approach. Not least of which is that it quickly loses its effect when that entity fails to show up.
Alexis Bushnell@HighlandLawyer @Primo @StarkRG @autistics I think we can see from many religions that that system actually does not work to make people behave kindly
@alexisbushnell @HighlandLawyer @StarkRG @autistics true.
And once they institutionalize they are just another vector of climbing a hierarchy.
And once they institutionalize they are just another vector of climbing a hierarchy.
Urthdigger Quickclaw@StarkRG @autistics The only bad thing about being autistic for me is dealing allistic people. I genuinely feel the world would be better if everyone was autistic.
sport of sacred spherical cowsEven the language here, "overdeveloped" re-inscribes the misdirection. Perhaps we need new terms, contrasting with the metaphor of the callous. Not overdeveloped but "unhardened".
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Perhaps, though that implies that hardening is an inevitable path, or even a desired one. Injustice shouldn't be something we harden ourselves against, it's something we should strive to eliminate.
Perhaps, though that implies that hardening is an inevitable path, or even a desired one. Injustice shouldn't be something we harden ourselves against, it's something we should strive to eliminate.
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I think that language shows the problem, that they assume an amoral or evil beginning, an amoral or evil nature in which morality must be nurtured and developed.
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Right? "Overdeveloped," means they think it's something that "develops," in the first place.
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They teach morality, and we "overlearn," it.
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They talk about morality, maybe they’re masking for us when they talk, but they do not think morality is natural, and when they are immoral, it’s “only natural.”
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(As though the abuse of human life doesn’t cause immorality, as if causality of any sort somehow isn’t the point.)
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I think that language shows the problem, that they assume an amoral or evil beginning, an amoral or evil nature in which morality must be nurtured and developed.
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Right? "Overdeveloped," means they think it's something that "develops," in the first place.
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They teach morality, and we "overlearn," it.
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They talk about morality, maybe they’re masking for us when they talk, but they do not think morality is natural, and when they are immoral, it’s “only natural.”
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(As though the abuse of human life doesn’t cause immorality, as if causality of any sort somehow isn’t the point.)
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Oh, good point! Not just the prefix, but the root term, lays bare the implicit model.
Morality as initially absent, something to be cultivated but that can exceed the bounds of the trellis intended for it.
Rather than as a starting point from which it is somehow normative to deviate.
@punishmenthurts @StarkRG @autistics
Well enough to get it across, me thinks. It is you who is to be thanked.
Yeah, felt that suggestion of inevitability (as it would be heard by an allistic ear) even in proposing the term.
The narrative being that hardening is somehow a natural process of growth and development. Rather than a normalized expectation.
Which leaves us still seeking new terms, that identify the failure to strive against injustice as the problem, rather than the development of one's capacity for same.