Cory Doctorow

"There are many ways of looking at ICE's recent terror campaign but probably the most salient is a bunch of people who can't get real jobs harassing and kidnapping people with real jobs."

-Adam Johnson
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Adam Johnson (@adamjohnsonCHI) on X

there are many ways of looking at ICE's recent terror campaign but probably the most salient is a bunch of people who can't get real jobs harassing and kidnapping people with real jobs

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Oct 22 at 2:11pmWeb
Show threadRiley S. FaelanOct 22
@pluralistic Considering that Xitter is a Bad Actor, with recent history of banning reasonable people or convincing reasonable tweets to disappear, you should probably link to anything worthwhile that may occasionally appear on it through some sort of archiving service.
Show thread🌱🏴‍🅰️🏳️‍⚧️🐧🔧📎 AmbiyelpOct 22

@pluralistic This is reductive and maligns people with disabilities many of whom also can't get jobs. It suggests that not having a "real" job (whatever that is) is the primary motivation towards someone being a fascist. And it moralizes work. In reality in many cases taking a job is less moral than not taking a job like slaughterhouse work.

#ableism #specieisism

Show threadMisuse CaseOct 22

@ambiguous_yelp @pluralistic >> It suggests that not having a "real" job (whatever that is) is the primary motivation towards someone being a fascist.

Jeez if I stretched that hard I’d probably strain something.

Show thread🌱🏴‍🅰️🏳️‍⚧️🐧🔧📎 AmbiyelpOct 22
@MisuseCase @pluralistic Either way the "real job" notion is a reactionary one that moralizes work, and marginalizes labour not often thought of as work, as well as often also marginalizing sex work. Its a common puritanical and jugmental worldview to say that only certain predetermined types of labour are valuable "real work"
Show threadMisuse CaseOct 22

@ambiguous_yelp @pluralistic No, the notion is that white supremacist ICE goons can’t hold down a job because they are creeps with a slaver mentality. Slaver types generally don’t do any kind of honest work because as far as they’re concerned they’re entitled to having women, non-white people, etc. do all the real work.

Unless you think being a white racist is a disability or something.

Show thread🌱🏴‍🅰️🏳️‍⚧️🐧🔧📎 AmbiyelpOct 22
@MisuseCase @pluralistic Sure thats your interpretation but I was responding to the words as written and as written they moralize work by pitting people with and without jobs as inherent moral classifiers, those who work "real jobs" good, upstanding, conscientious those who cant/dont work: bad, inconsiderate, arrogant. And that framing is still present in your interpretation whether you mean it to be or not
Show thread🌱🏴‍🅰️🏳️‍⚧️🐧🔧📎 AmbiyelpOct 22
@MisuseCase @pluralistic You can criticize people for being fascist without moralizing work by saying that not working somehow makes their fascism worse
Show threadMisuse CaseOct 22
@ambiguous_yelp @pluralistic Oh my God get over yourself.
Show threadListerine Lavender MintOct 22

@pluralistic this was one of the conclusions of Graeber’s Bullshit Jobs: that people with bullshit jobs resent people who get to do real, meaningful work.

Graeber was primarily writing about the GOP assault on nurses and teachers, but it shouldn’t be surprising it expanded into new domains.