Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch ever"

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Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch ever" - Futurology Today

Lemmy

I’m old enough to have seen this “flocking” several times. Some people stay and are pleasantly surprised. Most people go back a few weeks/months later, and leave a “Linux suxx” post behind them. I don’t expect this time will be any different, and that’s totally fine.

many people will go back, but of these, i’m sure many will also come back eventually

i’ve tried a bunch of distros in my last 2 years with windows. many didn’t satisfy my needs at the time, so i stayed on windows.

but now, it’s been over a year since I definitely switched to linux, and over 6 months since i nuked (accidentally, but shhh) my windows partition. and i don’t plan on going back anytime soon.

Just out of curiosity, which distro did you end up using?
right now im on Fedora KDE! it works well enough for me, it’s modern, it looks good, and most importantly (for me) it supports fractional scaling well (my laptop needs fractional scaling and that’s been the thorn in my foot for a while)
Great choice, often underestimated but actually rock solid
But this time Linux actually plays video games right out of the box. No trickery. Just install steam and the rest of the experience is smooth as butter
And sometimes with better performance than windows because of less of a system overhead.

this was so surprising to me; my favorite game (tropico) didn’t have blinking tiles/polygons on my linux rig than it did on windows.

it was super strange because i put linux on my old windows laptop and it also got the blinking; but the game got better when i bought a linux-only laptop with zero proprietary stuff on it (not even the bios). go figure.

Difference in GPU?

yes and not the way you’re probably thinking: the last windows rig had a dedicated nvidia card (i forget which) while the linux rig had a cheapo integrated intel gpu and the intel gpu it performed MUCH better like i described.

it could also have been the maturity of the nvidia driver back then, but then again it was the same game on both machines so it wasn’t that far apart in age-wise.

Nvidia’s always had quirky issues especially 10 series and before on Linux

i was going to argue that there’s no way that it was ten years ago before i realized that the tropico i liked was released 11 years ago. lol

afterall: 1999 was only 15 years ago too. lol

Desktops only frankly became remotely useable to normal people with recent revisions of things like kde…

Between that and software actually finally started becoming remotely reliable in like 2022-2023 for your avg windows user.

Comparing the past to now is not reliable fair.

More progress towards making things normal user friendly have happened in the last 3-5 years then the last 20.

Let me guess, you might have tried Linux on n the past but only really started using Linux full time around 2021/2022, because every time I see someone saying “Linux only became user friendly around year X” is always around a 1 year mark after they started using it daily, because it’s a lot more a matter of being used to than actual usability. I have been using KDE since 2004, and while things have changed it wasn’t all that much, I don’t remember any big usability refactor or anything of the sort happening, I’m fairly confident that if I were to put you to use a KDE 3.5 UI you would feel right at home.
Yeah of all the potential Linux issues you could point out, DE usability really isn’t on the map

I’ve been trying to switch to Linux for at least 5 years. I wouldn’t say it’s any better now than it was then. I desperately want to love Linux, but it fights me at every step of the way. As a media pc… I have had zero success using it as a media pc. My one requirement is an on screen keyboard, but it doesn’t come with one, and all the offerings I’ve found are shit. They won’t work in some windows, or at all.

As a laptop… This has been the most successful. I’ve not had any real issues with Linux on various laptops, other than finding replacements for certain windows software, but that’s not really a Linux problem.

As my main pc… Gaming has been fine. Hdr has only really recently become a thing, and it seems fine. However, I’m constantly coming across stupid things are ARE a Linux problem. Downloading and installing software has too many methods. I understand downloading a file to install something. I understand downloading a script to install something. I even understand why you’d need to make that script executable before it’ll work. I don’t understand what to do with a bunch of random files that claim to be an installer but don’t seem to have an install script or a .deb package. I don’t understand why once I map/mount a network drive, it fucking disappears after a reboot and needs to have the mount process be automated at every reboot.

Linux is just hostile to users. And while it is, it’ll never massively succeed.

LTSC is a much better option.

Same. I loathe Linux. I’ve been trying to use it since I was 19, periodically installing one distro or another, and I hate it. I absolutely hate it. I’m not saying it is bad or anything but I do not have the patience to fight with an OS over every tiny thing or having to look up a guide for every installation or having to double check what will work and won’t because you’re going to need a container.

Linux, I’m sure, is great but it’s also one of the least user friendly operating systems out there, regardless of Distro. I keep trying to use Linux Mint and it keeps driving me up the fucking wall. Either Linux supports nothing without a battle or nothing supports Linux without a battle and I’m not remotely interested in fighting with my PC to do something simple. The second that that shit gets sorted is the second I’ll be fine.

Well that is a weird experience. I can imagine having issues with one device or one or more applications, especially when trying to use windows software in Linux, but having to fight everything seems… Extreme.

I understand downloading a file to install something.

That’s a terrible start.
Software installation sources by priority:

  • Package Manager
  • Flatpak
    (Graphical utilities like Discover unite these two)
  • AppImages downloaded from the browser
  • Rpm/Deb packages downloaded from the browser, but really should be avoided
  • ONLY IF YOU REALLY KNOW YOUR SHIT YOU CAN RUN SCRIPTS TO INSTALL STUFF
  • You can add other stuff like toolbox after n.2 once you’ve got more experience.

    Your reply seems to insinuate that all the software I could ever need will be included in the package manager. That’s just stupid.

    I agree with your order of preference, but when I start having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find what I need, it becomes hostile.

    Your reply seems to insinuate that all the software I could ever need will be included in the package manager.

    Why would I make it a list if that was true? It would be just “1. Package Manager”

    That’s just stupid.

    If you smell shit everywhere you go…