what country would you never go to again?

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what country would you never go to again? - Divisions by zero

Lemmy

If shit keeps going the way it is, the US.
I was thinking they were all fine enough, but actually you’re right. At least in the short term it doesn’t seem remotely worth it.

Keeps going? I’ve been avoiding it for decades and I can see it from my porch.

Last time I visited the customs office emptied out into a literal ghetto. Like, an entire 4 blocks of ought-to-be-condemned housing with rusted out patchwork wrecks abandoned in yards and on the street (or worse following behind you). The corner gas station had more security features than most prisons in Canada, and every street sign had numerous bullet holes. That was their welcome mat 2 decades ago. F that shithole country.

Buffalo? Sounds like crossing the bridge into buffalo.
It’s been the US for me for over a decade. Never going back there, most likely.
came to say if I ever leave the us I aint comin back.
Any good places for a dual citizenship application? Asking for a friend.

Plenty of options, but you’ll be hard-pressed to target something specific without both skills and money.

The easiest option available to many Americans is to see if you can prove ancestry from a country with jus sanguinis citizenship that you have a direct link to. Some countries need it to be within a generation or two, other countries don’t have a specific cutoff point. But anticipate a long, bureaucratic process and costs to have documents translated.

The other easiest option is to marry a citizen of another country and move there together. But good luck with that.

But if either of those aren’t options, you’re going to have a hard time if you don’t have a college degree and don’t have experience working in a desired field.

The other easiest option is to marry a citizen of another country and move there together. But good luck with that.

It has to be a real marriage tho, like you have to be actually in love and not just doing it for the sole purpose of immigration benefits (otherwise it could be considered fraud).

I don’t have a desire to go back to the UK. Don’t have anything against the place, there isn’t anything there that entices me. Of all the European countries I visited I found it the most boring.
but how though why do people refuse to go back to the us or uk?

I don’t know what more too say to you. Nothing entices about going to the UK. If I am going to spend the resources to go to another country it won’t spend those resources on a UK trip.

  • France
  • Italy
  • Mediterranean Sea Cruise
  • Germany

Are the European areas I would spend time and money seeing.

I live in the US so I don’t know what to say to you about that.

As somebody from the UK I understand your original comment but putting Germany on this list is interesting – I find German and UK culture to be very similar.

Culture isn’t a factor for me.

Why Germany is on my list:

  • The bars and restaurants in Germany are orders of magnitude better than the UK.
  • There are a lot less assholes in Germany
  • I once lived there and it would be interesting to revisit those places.
  • They drive on the correct side of the road.
  • Germany women are a lot more approachable.
All subjective and I’m not going to disagree with you. I hope if you ever do find yourself back in the UK that you have a more enjoyable time.

All Subjective…

Of course the list of places that I want to visit is subjective…

I’m not looking for an argument, I was just commenting on the similarities of the cultures.

I’m not looking for an argument

But you keep arguing with me…

When did I argue? You’re entitled to your opinions and as I said I’m not going to disagree with you. Pointing out that they are subjective was not an attack but an observation. I just wished you would have a better time if you ever came back because it sounds to me like it wasn’t a good one.
Always has been the US. I’ve never been there, and I do not want to be there.
“again”
You seem to be under the impression that this post is about travel experiences, which is reasonable but incorrect. The commentor you’re replying to has correctly deduced that this post is an opportunity for everyone to engage in the America Bad ritual and signal their tribal loyalty.
I don’t have any “never again” countries because something bad happened. However, I find that a lot of Caribbean countries/destinations are pretty one and done for me.
There isn’t one. If I had to pick the one I want to revisit the least, I guess it would be Belgium. Nothing against Belgium, but Bruges aside it isn’t really the most interesting place to visit.

Big In Bruges energy

I thought Bruges was super fucking cool, but I love the idea of hating on it like the movie does

I don’t have such a country. If I had to strech it I would say Portugal, because Portuguese sounds to me like someone is trying to speak Spanish, while chewing on a very chewy, chunk of meat.
That’s weird, I find Portugese to be much more pleasing than Spanish. Not the weird ‘b/v’ and exaggerated ‘s’ sounds and much more melodical.
Again? UK. I’ve always travelled via the UK to / from Ireland to / from Germany since I don’t fly. Now with Labour it’s even worse compared to the shitshow Tories before being a queer person and next time I’llt travel via France. I’m still going to Northern Ireland, but that’s a big exception since Belfast feels like my 2nd home.
I’ve never visited Northern Ireland but I know some good online friends who live there, how’s it to visit?

I went to Derry and Giants Causeway after watching the Derry Girls TV show (“foreigners fookin’ love the Giants Causeway!”)

It wasn’t wrong, I greatly enjoyed my 3 days in Northern Ireland

Whatever you do there, mske sure to order a black cab tour at the Europa hotel and pop by at the Sunflower pub.
Did you make it to Scotland? Edinburgh is lovely and the Highlands and Islands are definitely worth a visit.
Scotland the brave! My ex lives in Edinburgh, I so much love Glasgow.

At the very least for the next few years, the US.

Otherwise Honduras, not that I didnt like my visit there but I can’t say I have a particularly compelling reason to return.

Britain England, it wasn’t bad or anything just no desire to visit it again. Saw what I wanted to see. Wouldn’t mind seeing Scotland again though.

As a Scot I’m always secretly pleased when we get a pass while the rest of the UK gets a ‘meh’.

That said, the North of England, Cornwall and Brighton, and parts of Wales are definitely worth a visit.

Your comment is a bit weird. Like saying, “I would never go back to the US again, I have no interest in it whatsoever. Although, NYC on the otherhand…”

Surely then it would make more sense to say, “I wouldn’t go back to Florida” or, “I wouldn’t do back to England / Wales / Northern Ireland”

To take you one further, it’s like saying, “I’d never go to Europe again – except France. I like France.”

Makes more sense to specifically name the countries you wouldn’t visit because for all we know you’ve never been to Wales.

My bad I forget england and britain are not interchangeable terms
That’s fair, we do have too many names for our small island.
NULL. Because I’ve been to 2 countries (US and Canada). I live in the US and I enjoyed Canada.
If you rephrase it to states instead of countries what would your answer be?
As someone in a similar boat, Florida. 100%, Florida. Or Arizona.
Florida. My brother lives there though. However he moving back to the Midwest so maybe I don’t have to go anymore.
Two answers for Florida haha. Is there something specific you can name or is it the general “vibe”, I’ve never been there

Imagine combining this lovely soup of factors:

  • A population with the collective brain drain on par with Russia after the 2022 Invasion of Ukraine
  • Weather, wildlife, and pollution almost built to make you miserable/kill you
  • Probably one of the most “MAGA” states in the country, so you may not even be able to exist there without getting harassed by the citizenry or law enforcement
  • Alligator Auschwitz (Need I say more?)
  • Disney World and Universal make the shitty traffic and pollution worse on a regular basis, on top of being financial tar pits
Ah, I see what you mean
I will never visit Florida ever again.

People’s Republic of China.

Was born there, probably ain’t ever going back.

So much conservatism, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, ableism especially against people with mental illness or intellectual disabilities, even if the condition was mild.

Massive government corruption, inadequate safety regulations, when it come to the internet and press, those get censored, can’t even have fun watching foreign media.

Complete lack of understanding for people suffering with depression nobody take it seriously, spritualism is applied to medical issues.

Hukou system limiting the very little rights you have. (I had a rural Hukou and that sucks)

To top it all off, this is a country that have rejected me for being the 2nd child born in my family (during the One Child Policy). Legal papers were denied, the government effectively refused to ackowledge my existence and demanded/extorted a large amount of money, a “fine” they call it. My parent’s didn’t have it so it took several years of saving up for it, before I could get legal papers and legal recognition of my existence. (See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heihaizi)

When I was a kid, I didn’t know it at the time, but when my mother explained my origins, I feel like society basically just rejected me. An outcast, an anomoly, something that shouldn’t have existed. All for the sin of existing without a government permission-slip.

Heihaizi - Wikipedia

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That is terrible, I am glad you got out, where do you live now?

US, got here in 2010s. Then, the ironic twist of fate, we got the 2017-2021 authoritarian test run, and now the 2025-ongoing shitshow lolol. Out of one hell, into another 🫠. Autocracy, here we go again!

I have hopes tho, Americans are rebellious and the recent protests keeps me hopeful. At least its not total apathy as with people in mainland China.

I’m also considering, Canada, Australia, and maybe Singapore, these have high levels of ethnic Chinese, which make intergration a lot easier, if I ever decide to try it, its all English speaking countries. (Thought about Taiwan, I can speak Mandarin, a bit, haven’t spoken it for over a decade; traditional Chinese is harder to read, I’d have to re-learn the language; but the biggest problem is that it’s a potential warzone so nope, don’t wanna get bombarded within like a decade)

But, anyways: Too depressed and tired to actually do the whole learning about a country from scratch thing again. Moving to another country is just an idea, the acual exexution takes a lot of energy, a lot of paperwork, it drains your brainpower. Probably just sit and wait this out, hopefully the spirit of American rebellion doesn’t die out. Need this flame to keep going.

Hope you are living better wherever you moved to. I’d buy you a drink if I could.

Why do people shit on the sick and disabled, but revere doctors?

When the former is the only reason for doctors to exist in the first place. Like, shouldn’t we respect disabled people in a sense for allowing an entire respected field to exist

Wow. I always thought if id been born in China that would be one of the worst developed places to be. Thats unfortunate but glad you got out
Would probably depend where in China. I think you’re better in China than in a lot of African countries or North Korea.
Did the rural Hukou mean you cannot move into a city?

You can, but there are rights being limited.

For example, even tho I was born in Guangzhou, I was still treated as though I was born in my father’s village in terms of Hukou (the actual place of birth on the birh certificate would be with Guangzhou as the birthplace, but that doesn’t matter to Hukou).

Even though my parents work in Guangzhou (广州), I couldn’t attend public school in Guangzhou, and my parents have to pay for a separate, privately-run “school”, which according to my mother, was worse than the officially government run public schools. But they still had the same “patriotic education” (This “patriotic education” would be considered indoctriction by most westerners). Same with my older brother.

If my family hadn’t left China, my mother told me I was gonna have to go back to somewhere in Taishan (That’s 台山,not 泰山) to continue beyond primary school because of there was supposely problems with getting enrolled in a Guangzhou middle school / highschool or something.

So like you’re basically treated as immigrants… sort of…

(I don’t know all the details of Hukou, I might ask my parents about it later.)

But even in the US, for example, even undocumented immigrant children (at least before the current admin, idk about now) could still enroll in public school, meanwhile China is denying their own citizens from attending public school, just because their ancestry is different. You could be born in Guangzhou and live your entire life there, and still have problems with your rights. It’s like countries within a country.

P.S. I remember my mother said she was a teacher before giving birth to me, but becuase she violated the One Child Policy, she can’t ever get any government-related jobs ever again, that includes being a teacher, or possibly even working at state-owned factory/warehouse.