Tim BrayCarney: “What makes those emissions go down will be carbon capture and storage.”
That is a declaration of war on Canada's environmentalists, who know (as does Carney) that scalable and viable capture/storage technologies are science fiction.
dirtside@timbray the notion that capture will offset continued emissions is fiction. but even if we stopped all emissions today we still need to pull billions of tons of CO2 out of the atmosphere, it's not going to go away on its own
@timbray I would think that's not fast enough, and would also require a substantial amount of land. I mean it would help and there's other reasons to replant forests and such, but we could massively improve CCS tech by taking the billions we use to subsidize oil and throw that into CCS research, engineering, and construction instead.
Mike Stockdale@timbray We on the left collectively made a deal with the devil to keep Poilievre out of power and now we're paying the price.
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Evan Prodromou@timbray we have scalable and viable capture and storage technology; it's called "trees". We need to be preserving the ones we have and planting a lot more. #afforestation #reforestation
@timbray I know. 🫤 Western financial players like high-tech solutions you can patent and own and make a killing on; carbon capture, small-scale nuclear power. They don't like commodity solutions like wind and solar, energy efficiency, and the transition to electric vehicles. One of the reasons China is owning the Transition is that they love a commodity product.
Amy Pillow@amy @evan Agreed on the subsidies, but you’ll be happy to hear that many EV buyers (like me for example) don't get them, in our case because it was an expensive EV, it’s reasonably well-regulated.
I do have to say that I think that personal EVs do have a role going forward. There are many for whom public transit isn’t an option and while we need to reduce that number, it will take years and never get to zero.
I do have to say that I think that personal EVs do have a role going forward. There are many for whom public transit isn’t an option and while we need to reduce that number, it will take years and never get to zero.
@timbray @evan It is an option though. It always has been an option.
We could entirely rely on professional taxi drivers, and proffesional ambulance drivers, and professional couriers, and eventually fully automated versions of those, that are all maintained by professional mechanics in a well regulated industry. Nobody needs to own a private car. Buses and taxis have always been a much safer, more efficient option.
We could entirely rely on professional taxi drivers, and proffesional ambulance drivers, and professional couriers, and eventually fully automated versions of those, that are all maintained by professional mechanics in a well regulated industry. Nobody needs to own a private car. Buses and taxis have always been a much safer, more efficient option.
Nelson@evan @timbray I generally agree, trees are great, but with caveats:
- simply planting tree monocultures, without establishing complete ecosystems including other lifeforms, reduces resiliency in the face of extreme weather and fails to support biodiversity
- sadly carbon offset schemes can mean tree planting/preservation indirectly increases emissions, if people rely on forests to offset their emissions and then the forests burn down in climate-related fires, releasing the carbon
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Giulio Cesare Solaroli@timbray some people studying the subject closely (aka “experts”, eg https://linktr.ee/david_ho) agree that man-made CO2 removal techniques are not effective, but also trees are not effective enough.
Unfortunately we put ourselves between a rock and a hard place, and we don’t have an easy solution out, hopefully yet.
Unfortunately we put ourselves between a rock and a hard place, and we don’t have an easy solution out, hopefully yet.
Daniel BrotherstonHonestly, Carney is pretty disappointing. Not surprising, but still.
There's now no major party in Canada promoting environment policies.
We're so fucking cooked.