nixCraft 🐧
Anti bloat IDEs. The good old days when you didn't need an internet connection, an API key/LLM subscription to write more bloat. People still built awesome games, apps, and solved real life scientific problems.
Oct 18 at 5:00pmWeb
Show threadstfnOct 18
@nixCraft The screenshot reminds me of DJGPP, the first compiler I ever downloaded, and it took the better part of an hour to get the full 10MB from an FTP site
Show threadstfnOct 18
@nixCraft I used it to write games in C <3
Show threadJan AntošOct 18
@stfn @nixCraft yep. The editor was named Rhino if I remember.
Show threadMK2kOct 18
@nixCraft and Demos, Intros, Cracktros :)
Show threadBigLinterOct 18
@nixCraft i say you still dont need an internet connection to get creative or code.
Show threadWGOct 18
@nixCraft Turbo C++, I remember you! Along with Turbo C and Turbo Pascal
Show threadAndreas MatheOct 18
@wgarmil Decades ago I learned C with Turbo C. IDE on a 360 kB disc in drive A:, source code on a 360 kB disc in drive B: (*all* my source code - several dozen of programs).
Show threadfernandoOct 18
@wgarmil @nixCraft the memories! I started coding demos on PC using Turbo Pascal with inline assembly 😂
Show threadHalla RemptOct 18

@nixCraft I remember those days... Not just the Borland IDE's, but Lightning Forth on the ZX Spectrum, or Beta Basic. But also the early iterations of Qt Creator, much later on... Which were much more pared down compared to the then- Borland and Microsoft IDE's. All Java IDE's have always been ew, kdevelop started sprawling years ago... And these days, I still use Qt Creator, but it's earning curses.

I also coded using Nedit or XEmacs, and could do tht again.

Show threadHalla RemptOct 18
@nixCraft What I will never, ever do again is code in a line editor, or code without syntax highlighting.
Show threadnixCraft 🐧Oct 18
@halla ah yesthe ed the original unix editor. there is even a book for it by @mwl
Show threadYrjänä Rankka 🌻Oct 18
@halla @nixCraft I cut my teeth writing C with ex on a TRaSh-80 model 16 running Xenix. Got the (mental) scars to show for it. I miss neither the OS nor the editor.
Show threadSturrupyokisOct 18
@nixCraft hmmm
Show threadDruid 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Oct 18
@nixCraft I used to use this! 😊
Show threadtheLoonyOct 18
@nixCraft Pascal❤️
Show threadArtemisOct 18
@nixCraft I have mixed memories about this particular IDE.
My Uni professor *demanded* we use it (in 2011 I think) for some reason. Even though, by that time, I was starting to get familiar with Code::Blocks for C and C++.
Show threadsvenkOct 18

@nixCraft IDEs were the most bloat software you could load at these days. I remember Eclipse and NetBeans and I hated it. Boreland also was a gatekeeper which prevented people learning programming. I discovered C++ with GCC and a simple text editor.

Ironically, modern IDEs are rather lightweight, in particular osscode without plugins.

Show threadmirabilosOct 18
@nixCraft and used WordStar keybindings like today in jupp
Show threadNimona RESISTSOct 18
@nixCraft I used Borland Turbo C (not ++), and it's predecessor, Wizard C, which didn't have an IDE.
Show threadJosé Manuel (Chema) SolísOct 18
@nixCraft I totally agree. I think some features of modern IDE's are great, but the problem is that the user is not in control. Suddenly they start behaving in an odd way and it is up to you to figure out. Everything should be opt-in.
Show threadNicoOct 18
@nixCraft oh I remember using that on a green hercules monitor
Show threadCrisOct 18
@nixCraft Same interface but pascal for me. No google, no internet, I knew most units and procedures in those units as well as their parameters from the top of my head.
Show threadrwaOct 18
@nixCraft Is there something like this for "modern" languages...lets say #golang?
Show threadO‘MimesisOct 18
@nixCraft 🫶
Show threadDiego BarrosOct 18
@nixCraft Good old Borland TurboVision https://tvision.sourceforge.net/
Turbo Vision port to the GNU compiler and more

Turbo Vision port to the GNU compiler and more

Show threadderptronOct 18
@nixCraft Ahh....the good old days of buggy and pre-standard C++ compilers.