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TedescheProof that you shouldn’t kill violent extremists, just try to distract people from their influence. Killing them just martyrs them and draws unneeded attention to their cause.
You have no idea where the actual extremes are if you considered Kirk a ‘violent extemist’. Please stop muddying the term so that we properly identify and communicate about actual violent extremists.
CryptagionismisogynistAdvocating for the enslavement of women by suggesting they shouldn’t be allowed to work or get an education and should just stay at home giving birth is violent extremism
freethoughtnow.org/charlie-kirk-glorifies-a-life-…
Advocating for a 10year old who was raped to be denied abortion and forced to deliver a rape baby is violent extremism
…yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-once-235100404…
Having his organization harass and dox professors around the country they don’t like, particularly women professors, is violent extremism
reddit.com/…/journalist_stacey_patton_pens_a_stat…
capitalbnews.org/black-professors-watch-list-thre…
thehill.com/…/5549577-antifa-rutgers-professor-tr…
Pushing racist rhetoric is violent extremism
Charlie Kirk glorifies a life of subordination for women and girls at ‘Young Women’s Leadership Summit’ - Freethought Now
Walking into a Charlie Kirk–endorsed “Leadership Summit” geared toward young women, I already knew it would leave me upset. However, after a seemingly never-ending weekend, I realized it was not the constant degradation of women or the villainization of feminism that disturbed me the most, as I had expected. What bothered me more was the […]
Hey friend, I appreciate all of the links and the feedback. Let me define these terms so we are on the same page.
Violence - the use of physical force with the intent to cause injury/death to a person/group Violent extremism - the belief system and actions of individuals/groups who use violence to achieve ideological/religious/political goals
Hopefully you are good with that.
Ok, so for the first two links you provided. Kirk was an evangelical christian and a promoter of those ideas. His views on the role of woman in society and his ‘all life is sacred’ stance on abortion is run of the mill in those circles. You and I likely align with our disagreement of those religious views, but these are standard, boiler plate views being promoted by evangelical christians. We may not like these views, but they are far from violent and even further from something extreme.
At the risk of sounding a bit dismissive, the other links about TPUSA members I will not and feel no need to comment on. We were talking about Kirk.
Regarding the last link, I’ve seen those racial quotes before. They are all out of context and very deceitfully so. If you are not going to take the time to listen to those quotes in context, just know that a lot of black people mourned Kirk’s death. If you do take the time to listen, I am not asking you to agree with Kirk, I rarely do, but I would ask that you question if these were calls to violence or even that extreme of a view.
All that said, the point I am truly trying to get across here is that words have meaning. Someone saying a vile racist thing is simply someone saying a vile racist thing. This is very distinct from getting punched in the face.
Zagorathhis ‘all life is sacred’ stance on abortion is run of the mill in those circles
That might be. But it doesn’t mean it isn’t also violent. If your political stance on an issue can be directly traced to people dying, that’s violence. Any definition of violence which does not account for that is manifestly inadequate. (Note that I am only giving a sufficient condition here, and not a necessary one.)
Women who cannot receive access to proper medical treatment because of extremist evangelical laws restricting abortion die all the time. That’s violence.