@hunda

Do you imagine that #socialism or #communism DON'T lead to inequality?

No, the real answer is this; inequality is part of reality. People are not equal in every way, and never will be, and it's not even a problem if you think about it. Does anybody really object to the fact that this person is a better singer, that person is taller, that other person over there is smarter?

@AlexanderKingsbury @hunda
1) you're distracting from the argument. OP criticises capitalism. Alright. How is criticising socialism a response?

2) i'd love to hear your definition of capitalism

3) "inequality engine" – i suppose that means it generates inequality where it has not been before. As has already been mentioned, no one thinks that everyone has the same skills or interests etc. Communists/socialists are usually concerned with economic inequality.

@WombatPriest @hunda

1) I criticize both socialism and communism, as they are the only alternatives.

2) Okay.

3) Which is also a foolish thing to pursue; it's not even what many people want, and it would be wrong to force it on them. If someone wants to take a vow of poverty, who am I to stop them? If someone wishes to be richer than I, again, why should I object?

@AlexanderKingsbury @hunda
1) what about anarchism, feudalism,...
Also, you're again distracting from the point. Just because one system is bad doesn't mean that others are good. You're commiting to a logical fallacy (tu quoque / whataboutism)

2) are you gonna tell me your definition of capitalism?

3) Again a distraction. You claimed that inequality was a part of life. But I don't see how economic inequality is an unchangeable law of nature. Whether you want to change it is another topic.

@WombatPriest @hunda

1) Anarchism is a political situation or system, not an economic one. Feudalism is a blend of political and economic, but economically it comes down to more or less centralized state control; socialism.

2) I don't have a personally generated one. I tend to use things like dictionaries.

3) Economic inequality exists only insofar as humans interact; a hermit living in total isolation has no meaningful economic inequality. So it's hardly an "unchangeable law of nature".

@AlexanderKingsbury @hunda
1) anarchism is the absence of hierarchy. So there can't be bosses in anarchism. So the economy would need to work differently. Feudalism is not socialism, because the definition of socialism is not state control, but control by the masses ("dictatorship of the proletariat"). Feudalism is the opposite.

2) so what does your dictionary say?

3) right then. So your original claim is wrong when we look at economic inequality, rather than inequality of skills etc.

@WombatPriest @hunda

1) If you simply mean "I want no hierarchy", that's a nonsensical way to order a society. Just as one example among MANY, ask a firefighter how well a scene could possibly be run absent any authority at all.

2) There are multiple dictionaries, but you might find this one useful: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism

3) My "original claim" was not narrowly focused only on economic inequality, nor does the original poster specify economic inequality. That's a wicket YOU choose to add.

@AlexanderKingsbury @hunda
1) that's again a distraction from the point. The point was that there are other ideas than capitalism and communism. I never said you have to like them.

2) This definition lacks the notion of capital accumulation, which is a key concept of capitalism, as well as the one that makes it an "inequality engine": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_accumulation

I'll have to put the third point extra, sorry

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@WombatPriest @hunda

1) Yes, there are other ideas. Like cubism; but that's an art idea, not an economic one. All economic systems ultimately fall under capitalism, socialism, communism, or some blend thereof.

2) I never imagined you'd accept what a dictionary had to say about a definition.

3) I have no interest whatsoever in what you imagine someone else thinks. If they wish to clarify, or you wish to ask them, that's out of my control. And I point to more inequalities than just in skills.