u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)The internet provider on my dorm specifically allows legal torrents
Mk23simpThe Big Brother energy of that “We Can See You” eye in the middle is pretty high.
ScrubblesYeah college networks are one of the biggest ones I would not trust unless I had a VPN going. Average computing? Perfectly fine. Naughty things? VPN up
FunwayguyIf you don’t use the VPN for normal things then you leave yourself open to indentification by correlation. It’s the same rule for naive Tor users. The more normal and distributed it appears in traffic, the harder it is to correlate other pieces of data they they already have access to.
indentification by correlation
Not in my college. They have plenty of IP addresses to not use NAT, i.e. every user gets their public IPv4, and authentication is done with WPA2-Enterprise, i.e. unique login.
Everything is immediately traceable.
MicrowYou can still download a car
But I would never do that of course. I would however shit in a policemans helmet.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg (IT Crowd)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg (IT Crowd)
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I wish I could download public transit
MelodiousFunkBest I can do is a copy of Roller Coaster Tycoon.
That’s a pretty good deal.
I’m pretty sure I’ve downloaded more cars for free for GTA IV than I’ve physically been in.
You wouldn’t!
comador Policing this crap isn’t trivial and not worth the effort.
We just gave up and block 100% of all P2P traffic on both our university wireless and student wired networks.
In our corporate network, we just detect for common BT applications on the endpoint and alert on that instead.
Why would you care? Is it a legal issue of some sort?
Likely is. When a dorm resident does the torrenting, the university would be receiving those naughty letters.
Oh, those naughty letters! There’s a reason Seaseme Street is never brought to you by the letter J or Q. Such naughty letters.
Sorry, I’ve never lived in a country which bootlicked the copyright owners so much. I’ve read up on it and wow it sounds kinda insane, someone spies on your traffic and sends you legal threats for pirating stuff.
Eh yes and no. Usually a representative of the rightsholder will join the swarm of a torrent, note all the IP addresses, and send their love letters to every ISP on that list. From there, the ISPs will forward the letters and may take action depending on jurisdiction and local law, which usually amounts to soft threats or suspending your account after multiple interactions. It isn’t that the ISPs are spying on your traffic (at least in this instance), they just don’t want to get caught up in “enabling piracy” or whatever nonsense. Hence why VPNs are a thing.
My university just blacklisted the questionable trackers DNS, not the actual data traffic
So basically I would tether to my cell phone, wait for it to fetch a list of peers from the tracker, and then switch back to the uni wifi to complete the download
What do you mean by blocking “100% of all P2P traffic”?
100% of all P2P protocols, literally are blocked by our University F5 BigIP by rule.
All of them.
Midnight Wolf…which is why today’s sponsor is NordVPN!
(don’t actually use NV there are much better options, this was for comedic effect)
What's wrong with Nord?
Overall the marketing is dishonest/over promises and there’s some previous lack of transparency with data breaches along with being closed source. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NordVPN#Criticism
There’s just better options: thatoneprivacysite.xyz
NickwithaC*Builds privacy site*
*Embeds Google sheet*
That sheet seems to hold Nord in pretty good regard,
Brave Little Hitachi WandI used to use Nord. Happier with Mullvad, way less faff
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「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)There’s just better options: thatoneprivacysite.xyz
Lmao, I don’t trust a site suggesting privacy tools when they use Google to host their spreadsheets. 🤣
aside from the fact it just doesn’t work on windows 10 anymore for me?
idk it also seems to not work for torrenting, one of my ISPs blocks torrent traffic when using it now
I use it on windows 10 with no issue
M137How have you not yet realised to be very doubtful and suspicious of anything that’s heavily advertised on YouTube etc? Which Nord is like top 5 of along with Raid Shadow Legends, Raycon earbuds, BetterHelp and Manscaped. All, including Nord, having been widely known for years to be scams and/or just shitty products and companies.
Do you really think they’d do those sponsorship deals if they were actually good and naturally got customers via word of mouth?
All of this is so damn obvious.
Blackmist
turdcollector69Nothing really, I’ve been using them for years and have had no issues.
If you’re just pirating movies it’s fine, as long as you’re not selling state secrets or anything like that you’re fine with nord.
not_IOit has google firebase trackers reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/652224/
use mullvad instead
For real. I don’t torrent much rn but I absolutely would if I saw this
slippyferretIf you get the torrent from a site using HTTPS and get the data only from encrypted peers is it even possible to tell what people are downloading?
Not from monitoring on the network
But if one of those peers is a snitch then you have a potential issue
chameleonFor anything public, it's anything varying from trivial to hard/annoying depending on your client settings, but never quite impossible. Even in the best-case scenario where you have DHT turned off and all the trackers in the torrent are using HTTPS, man-in-the-middle attacks are fairly doable for anything popular.
If it was me, I’d snoop the DNS requests and/or SNI headers. Flag on torrent index sites and trackers known to be used for pirate stuff. They don’t need to know exactly which paw patrol movie you’re downloading, just that you are getting something from thepiratebay.
teftThis can be easily bypassed by joining the seeding/downloading of popular torrents which gives access to peers’ IPs.
I am under-educated on this matter. Does that mean that establishments that run torrenting trackers have to seed/peer content? If so, that is very cool for people in regions where torrenting is not punished yet.
No, it’s about detection of people who seed/download. This encryption setting in torrent clients only protects you from passive external inspection of traffic done by ISP. Your ISP will still know that you use torrents (this is impossible to hide without VPN), but with encryption it won’t know specific torrents that you download/seed, and won’t (easily) know ip addresses of other peers (though it’s also detectable since you connect to them in order to transfer data).
However there is no protection from another peers spying on you. In order for BitTorrent to work you need to tell other peers what you are downloading and advertise your IP address. Which means that there is an implicit trust between peers. A common tactic used by IP holders is to start downloading popular pirate torrents (for which they own copyright) which gives them IP addresses of everyone who seeds/downloads specific content illegally, allowing them to proceed with legal action.
I got "busted" downloading Debian once lol
olenkoVDYou say you can tell what I’m downloading? Mullvad says otherwise.
me with my vpn
Friendly reminder that the panopticon we live under today was considered horrifying a hundred years ago
Or even 25 years ago! They (and in many cases we) tried to warn them. Turns out the other “they” are happy to give it away for AI slop videos.
That’s not when they gave it away. It was well and truly gone 24 years ago lest terrorists win
It’s still horrifying today. We’re just powerless to stop it.
We didn’t start the fire…
But we’re tryin ta fight it 🎶