mesaAnyone know anything about the jolla phone?
https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone
I know nothing about this company or the phone. But it says it runs linux.
warmasterI’ve been reading about it for about a year and talked (via the fediverse) with people who have it.
Before I even consider the hardware, a few key points about the OS (Sailfish):
- They do what they claim to do
- More insecure than Graphene OS
- Can also run Android apps (I can’t remember how well/easy)
- OS updates are paywalled (subscription)
This last point sucks real hard.
OS updates are paywalled (subscription)
This, at least for the C2, has changed forum.sailfishos.org/t/…/23491 (likely because it’s conflicting with EU law), and they’ve instead introduced a Voluntary Subscription.
Honestly, I rather pay for my OS than paying for it with my data / privacy or living in an ad-infested garbage fest.
Long-term Sailfish OS updates free-of-charge for all Jolla C2!
Midsummer greetings! We’re happy to announce that from now onwards long-term Sailfish OS updates are included free-of-charge to all Jolla C2 devices 🥳 for a minimum of 5 years. This applies also to everybody who have already purchased the Jolla C2. While we guarantee the software support and security fixes for 5 years from the last sold Jolla C2 unit, in practice it can be even longer if just technically feasible to support. Those who have been longer Sailfish OS users already ...
poVoqThey are basically what is left of Nokia’s efforts with the N900 and N9 back in the day. But they chose a semi-closed source business model which severely limited community uptake and then seemingly got overwhelmed with maintaining their software-stack so now a lot of it is very outdated; which is why they are now slowly open-sourcing it, but it is probably too little and too late.
Edit: and their mix up with some Russian business (not sure about the current status of it) also doesn’t help instill confidence.
Edit: and their mix up with some Russian business (not sure about the current status of it) also doesn’t help instill confidence.
That’s history, see forum.sailfishos.org/t/…/17473.
Sailfish Community News, 30th November - Jolla reborn!
Sailfish OS update from Jolla In today’s newsletter we’re very happy to discuss a major milestone within Jolla’s business environment and we also have a special report from pherjung from the recent Hackathon that took place in Bucharest, Romania. As known, Jolla’s ownership structure became an immediate issue for the whole operation due to the Ukraine war, eventually leading the company to a corporate restructuring program starting in spring 2023. A solution was finally found on November 24, 2...
oneguynickI just did a year in update:
devfuuuI have the original one pre ordered, orange cover and all. It was my first smartphone. Used it for years. Then things started to become slower (more apps using more resources / being heavier) and my needs changed (wanted better camera, more space, 5g, need to use android apps that required a higher api version) and bought my second smartphone which was an android.
So the phone really is linux, had systemd / journalctl if I’m remembering right, file system was btrfs which I had to do some maintenance by hand by ssh into it, it was using wayland. Basically 2 things were closed source: their UI and the thing that allowed to run android apps emulated.
I absolutely loved it and the ux was very nice. It took me a lot of time to get used to modern UX of android after it and it was painful to adjust.
khobochka@mesamunefire I've been using #sailfishos for years now, starting with the #Jolla phone launched in 2013, which I got in 2014.
My current daily driver is Xperia XAII with SFOS, on which I use:
* Android apps: Signal, ProtonMail, OpenFoodFacts, AntennaPod and Husky to name a few;
* 2 SIMs;
* terminal+shell for small personal automations;
* lots of native apps, like camera, browser, offline maps (PureMaps), translators, dicts, music players and so on.
Also, I love its UI: beautiful and simple.
My current daily driver is Xperia XAII with SFOS, on which I use:
* Android apps: Signal, ProtonMail, OpenFoodFacts, AntennaPod and Husky to name a few;
* 2 SIMs;
* terminal+shell for small personal automations;
* lots of native apps, like camera, browser, offline maps (PureMaps), translators, dicts, music players and so on.
Also, I love its UI: beautiful and simple.
@mesamunefire It's tiring to read people repeating BS, so, to stress:
1. It extends life of second-hand phones, even though the selection is fairly small.
2. You pay 5 euro once to buy the OS.
If you wish, you can help people maintaining it to keep a sustainable funding by making your payment a monthly one.
3. Presence of closed-source components doesn't make it less a #linuxmobile OS, or less of an actual working alternative to the choice between "the douche and the turd" of mobile OSes.
Darkmm (free 🇵🇸)@khobochka @mesamunefire #sailfishos is a great system out of all Linux phonesos and is still the most useful. I have used the Nokia N9(Meego), and then, after a few years continued with Xperia and the Xperia 10 and then stop using and try #GrapheneOS, I are currently "playing" with the Oneplus 6t on #postmarketos but I watch the used Xperia 10 III to a new phone, and move to the Sailfish os again.
@mrakmm @mesamunefire yep, this is relatable (only I never had N9). I'm also currently playing with #postmarketos without much practical success, and also eyeing the next phone for SailfishOS, but stuck undecided because my current Xperia, despite being old, is still usable, so getting yet another piece of hardware feels kinda bad.