I’ve been wondering when iLife, iWork, and Pro Apps are going to be released with Liquid Glass updates.

Or are they unable to ship something… suitable with the new design language? 🤭
https://mastodon.social/@czeins/115294549372025391

@marioguzman @czeins the Pro apps shipped with the new SDK, but they've opted out of the design language…
@stroughtonsmith either too much work for them to do now or they just hate it and realize larger glass platters in the toolbar uses up precious space. 😆
@stroughtonsmith @marioguzman @czeins I haven’t seen a new release of logic or Final Cut since the macOS 26 release.
@woolie @marioguzman @czeins they're there in the App Store, they just may not have auto-updated for you
@stroughtonsmith @marioguzman @czeins ahhhh, I see. They are only available if you are running 26.
@woolie @czeins @marioguzman @stroughtonsmith If you're not running 26 you won't get updates for those apps anymore.

@nicolas17 @czeins @marioguzman @stroughtonsmith that seems extreme (and extremely unlikely) at best.

Pro apps usually support many OS’es back. With 3rd party plugins used by those pro apps taking years to support the current OS releases, it would cause some real blowback.

I suspect that only this one fix is 26 only and there will still be updates for previous one coming.

@stroughtonsmith @woolie @czeins @marioguzman

The App Store (on either iOS or Mac) doesn't even support keeping multiple version "branches" of an app. If "FooApp 2.0" requires macOS 26, the developers can't release a minor "FooApp 1.6.1" update for users still on macOS 15. Versions only march forward.

@woolie But it turns out the latest Final Cut Pro 11.2 supports macOS 15.6 (I took your "they are only available if you are running 26" as fact but that's not the case) so you should have seen the update.

@nicolas17 ahhh, yes, I in fact have the latest. I’m a Logic Pro user 90%+ of the time with the occasional FCP. I have FCP11.2, but Logic has not had an update since July.

So, that probably explains why I thought I wasn’t getting updates (because I don’t care about FCP).

Thanks for helping me understand the 26 release scheduling for Pro Apps.

@stroughtonsmith is there a pref you can share to show that debug menu?
@woolie defaults write -g NS🐞 -bool YES
@stroughtonsmith thanks man. Not sure how I didn’t know this. I have to wonder if this is purely coming from AppKit without app involvement. Either way, thanks. TIL
@marioguzman They didn’t even fully adopt the Big Sur era look, I’m very curious to see what happens