'Shame on you!' Dems erupt on House floor as Mike Johnson orders recess despite shutdown

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Democratic leadership in this moment is incredibly bad.
Oh yes, how dare they shutdown the house floors… Oh wait.

I think the goal of some of these lemmites (lemmings, lemmors?) is to push all the moderates out of the Democratic Party so we’re left with only the truest most liberal of politicians. And from there, we will win 20 senate seats and never see the presidency again.

If democrats aren’t alienating the majority of Americans, they aren’t the party for us!

Ah the enlightened centrist take that has been leading to loss after loss in campaigns.
I’m in no way saying we need to take a moderate/centrist approach. I am saying this is a moment when Republicans are vulnerable, and all this community wants to do is bag on the Democratic Party. That is how we always lose.
They’re bagging on the Democratic leadership who are once again not doing anything to actually take advantage of that vulnerability…
You don’t always need to take action to take advantage of a vulnerability.

How do you think the Republicans became so powerful in this country?

By being nice and letting their ideological enemies flourish?

I think they flourish because their voters do not generally care about hypocrisy and logic.

The Republicans feed their base with wins regularly. Sure they don’t care about the hypocrisy or whatever as well, but it’s also that they are actually doing things for them. Now these things don’t really change their lives but it sure makes them feel good.

When do the Dems do this?

My point is that democratic voters are so quick to abandon democrats when they aren’t behaving exactly as they want. Republicans don’t care.

You are missing my point entirely. I’m addressing your point - it’s just dumb. No party is owed voters - they must work to do things to get those voters to support them. The Republicans do this all the time. The Dems do not. That’s it. If they want people to vote for them, they need to have a compelling platform that actually gets people in their base excited - like how the Republicans do.

Republicans see their base being transphobic and they throw them a bone on that. They see them hating immigrants and they throw them a bone on that. It serves their interests sure, but it also keeps their base in line and willing to support them on the more heinous things that just hurt them in the long run.

By contrast the Dems see their base wanting things like healthcare or to stop funding genocide and what do they do? They ignore it and double down on the Republican talking points to try and pull some of their voters away rather than just run on the policy that would make them extremely popular and a shoe in to win elections.

Do you see what I am saying yet?

Doing nothing, as they have been, has done fuck all.

You USUALLY have to take some action.