Erika rules
Wait… I thought “antifa” wasnt a group?

Antifa isn’t an organization.

Antifa is a loose classification which amounts to “Anyone who is antifascist and active”

Its may not fit the classification of “organization”, but it is a group, of sorts. They have a website… I mean, right?

They have a website… I mean, right?

No, because there’s no antifa ’organization’ that could credibly speak for the movement. It would be like finding a website for Pineapple-on-Pizza lovers and asking if that was ‘the’ Pineapple-on-Pizza-Lover website. The answer is no, because Pineapple-on-Pizza-Lover is describing an inclination, not membership in a group.

Or, for a more innate example, asking if “the Asians” have a website. Asian is descriptive of a (subjective, generally phenotypical) quality, not of membership in an organization. You could find any number of websites by Asian folk, or catering to Asian folk, but it’s not “The Asians have a website.”

Sure ok, pretty good words. The meaning and connotations of words are fluid are they not. Its beings claimed that “Antifa” is the same thing as being anti fascist, and im trying to make a case that it is not the same thing and shouldn’t be used interchangeably.

Look, I was fooled by that website… mud on my face. But “antifa” has a sort of civil disobedience optics attached to it. Its has imagery related to it, being sights of protest/riot and unrest type stuff.

On a personal note, I see the folks identifying as “antifa” and i dont particularly want to be associated with them at all. Although I do believe I am an anti-fascist. What is one to do.

But “antifa” has a sort of civil disobedience optics attached to it. Its has imagery related to it, being sights of protest/riot and unrest type stuff.

Because of propaganda trying to demonize antifa/being anti-fascist. Congrats, you fell for it.

On a personal note, I see the folks identifying as “antifa” and i dont particularly want to be associated with them at all. Although I do believe I am an anti-fascist. What is one to do.

Get over it, it doesn’t matter. You don’t get to choose who shares your ideals any more than you get to choose who likes pineapple on their pizza.

No… lol. “Propaganda” didn’t paint the antifa movement in a bad light. Whatever perception the populace holds about them is their own doing.

Wow… its all fascinating… cuz now you think anyone against “Antifa” is against anti-fascism. Is that right?

IDK if you’ve heard, but countries all over the world are becoming more and more riddled with fascists in seats of power. What was left of the US’s democracy is crumbling away as we speak. There are people in powerful positions with a vested interest on demonizing those who would fight against them or call them out. Those people 100% are absolutely spewing propaganda to that effect, doing things like labeling antifa as a terrorist organization.

Wow… its all fascinating… cuz now you think anyone against “Antifa” is against anti-fascism. Is that right?

… Yes. This isn’t a gotcha, and if you’ve been reading the previous comments in this thread, you’d understand why.