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Getitupinyerstuffin'Wait… I thought “antifa” wasnt a group?
Antifa isn’t an organization.
Antifa is a loose classification which amounts to “Anyone who is antifascist and active”
Its may not fit the classification of “organization”, but it is a group, of sorts. They have a website… I mean, right?
They have a website… I mean, right?
No, because there’s no antifa ’organization’ that could credibly speak for the movement. It would be like finding a website for Pineapple-on-Pizza lovers and asking if that was ‘the’ Pineapple-on-Pizza-Lover website. The answer is no, because Pineapple-on-Pizza-Lover is describing an inclination, not membership in a group.
Or, for a more innate example, asking if “the Asians” have a website. Asian is descriptive of a (subjective, generally phenotypical) quality, not of membership in an organization. You could find any number of websites by Asian folk, or catering to Asian folk, but it’s not “The Asians have a website.”
Sure ok, pretty good words. The meaning and connotations of words are fluid are they not. Its beings claimed that “Antifa” is the same thing as being anti fascist, and im trying to make a case that it is not the same thing and shouldn’t be used interchangeably.
Look, I was fooled by that website… mud on my face. But “antifa” has a sort of civil disobedience optics attached to it. Its has imagery related to it, being sights of protest/riot and unrest type stuff.
On a personal note, I see the folks identifying as “antifa” and i dont particularly want to be associated with them at all. Although I do believe I am an anti-fascist. What is one to do.
You can’t just move away from the false statements you’ve made by filling comments with paragraphs of your feelings. Antifa is not an organization and they do not have a website. The rest of your feelings you’re talking about are invalid because your point is invalid.
But “antifa” has a sort of civil disobedience optics attached to it. Its has imagery related to it, being sights of protest/riot and unrest type stuff.
Because of propaganda trying to demonize antifa/being anti-fascist. Congrats, you fell for it.
On a personal note, I see the folks identifying as “antifa” and i dont particularly want to be associated with them at all. Although I do believe I am an anti-fascist. What is one to do.
Get over it, it doesn’t matter. You don’t get to choose who shares your ideals any more than you get to choose who likes pineapple on their pizza.
No… lol. “Propaganda” didn’t paint the antifa movement in a bad light. Whatever perception the populace holds about them is their own doing.
Wow… its all fascinating… cuz now you think anyone against “Antifa” is against anti-fascism. Is that right?
IDK if you’ve heard, but countries all over the world are becoming more and more riddled with fascists in seats of power. What was left of the US’s democracy is crumbling away as we speak. There are people in powerful positions with a vested interest on demonizing those who would fight against them or call them out. Those people 100% are absolutely spewing propaganda to that effect, doing things like labeling antifa as a terrorist organization.
Wow… its all fascinating… cuz now you think anyone against “Antifa” is against anti-fascism. Is that right?
… Yes. This isn’t a gotcha, and if you’ve been reading the previous comments in this thread, you’d understand why.
wavebeamine the same way being american can feel kinda gross because of the stuff america does and is perceived by the whole world? Doesn’t mean i’m allowed to say i’m not american… i live in america. being anti-fascist and antifa are exactly the same thing. you can’t be one and not the other for the same reason i can’t not be an american.
being anti-fascist and antifa are exactly the same thing.
No, they are not the same thing. This is exactly what im talking about. Linguisticly, they arent the same. Politically they arent the same thing.
Being an upright American citizen who is also anti-fascist is not “ANTIFA” just like an anti-communist is not an “Antcom”
That’s because you take Fox News seriously. Antifa is not the boogeyman group of anarchists plotting in secret that you’re thinking of. It isn’t even an organization, no such thing exists because it’s just shortening the words “anti-fascism” it literally just means anyone who is against fascism. People wear things that say “Antifa” to protests are literally doing so to troll Fox and Co. in order to point out their idiocy and hypocrisy. The reason that Trump and co. are going after this non-existent organization is that they are fascists, and are scared of any open opposition, thus they seek to quash an idea.
it’s fascism dear, you can’t civil yourself out of it.
sounds like what you really want is to live in fascism, but still complain about it to get laid. but you will never do anything against fascism.
No… I 100% dont want fascism, or the racism and authoritarianism that comes with it, those are specifically undesired. But dont get me wrong, I also dont want this new age brand of socialism that wants to be communism on the downlow.
IE, you don’t want fascism, but you also don’t want any resistance to fascism.
you’re a fascist enabler, and therefore a fascist. no matter how many times you cry “I don’t like fascism” you’re still a fascist of you are against resisting fascism.
You better figure this out before to start talking to people in person about this, because if you were in front of me and called me a fascist, like you did just now, you’d be waking up 10 minutes later wondering wtf just happened?
what’s to figure out? you’re just a fash without the balls to say it, because you are against fascism.
if you think it’s complicated, try going to first grade.
But “antifa” has a sort of civil disobedience optics attached to it. Its has imagery related to it
And do you think it’s the anti-fascists or the fascists feeding you that imagery?
protest/riot
This is a violent false equivalence that really puts your bias on full display (not that every other thing you said didn’t already do that). And when I say “violent,” I don’t just mean the scale of the false equivalence, I mean it’s actually destructive to society to conflate these two things. Fox News got you bad huh?
Yer an idiot… sorry
Yes, very convincing argument, well done fascist👏👏👏