@drahardja Microsoft says Teams (their product) sucks? Well, I can't disagree there.
@drahardja it is notable that the companies that made wfh possible for so many are at the forefront of the back-to-office movement.
@drahardja and the Zoom company already mandated a return to office working for... (checks notes) productivity reasons. And for Zoom, online meetings and video calls are their entire business!

@drahardja

i now work in an office full time and we use fucking teams all fucking day - even when we are sitting right fucking next to each other

and it sucks so i would rather not use fucking teams at all but if i have to use fucking teams all fucking day i would rather do that working at home

OMFG

@samiamsam @drahardja That.

I totally get it that some things work better in person. Like supervising and educating two student interns. The rest of the time most people I talk to are not in the same state.
I like being in the company's office once a week or so, and it's good to have my group actually all present in a meeting room about once a month. The discussions are so much better in person.

The rest can be easily done remotely. My boss agrees, so do his bosses but theirs doesn't. Fuck

@drahardja

I would not want to be in a team with anybody who enjoys using Teams.

@drahardja @dalias I'd sure be interested in seeing what research they're citing for the inferiority.

I expect no citations at all were used.
@lispi314 @dalias @drahardja I would go further.
No research was conducted.
@drahardja All I hear is "we aren't dog fooding our own product"
@drahardja oh boy, more "we have to justify our physical property we purchased to our investors!" in the guise of "productivity".

@drahardja For that same reason Zoom-employees had to come to the office, instead of using Zoom...

My gast is flabbered...

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@drahardja Slack is also an on-site company ironically 
@drahardja when board understands that they gonna be thrown out with OpenAI investment. Pretty predictable.
@drahardja @moftasa
To be fair, the Teams team should be made to suffer in any way possible

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sociopaths find it far more effective to bully people in person so.......

but also the real estate thing