One reason non-ADHD'ers have trouble understanding ADHD is because they never adequately consider executive dysfunction.

They'll say "if you want to, you would," but a lot of times we desperately want to, and we still can't

Some of the biggest ADHD struggles are often getting ourselves to do the things we desperately want to do.

@structuredsucc It's more fucked than that, at least for me, but yeah...that's closer to the truth.

Probably be able to fix this with a microchip soon enough. Then the question ...

Because that's off the hook, yeah? Who's got the bootloader certificate? When's the first computerized mind virus come out?

I remind myself they don't need that complexity. Would make things simpler though.

@structuredsucc The first versions would probably focus on training that center of the brain though. Stimulating the right sections to re-enforce executive thinking. Might even quickly degrade and just stay in there behind a wall of scar tissue after successfully restructuring your brain.

So no long-term hack potential.

@crazyeddie @structuredsucc Christ, a chip. No way.

I'd rather the amphetamines then.

@monsoonrains @structuredsucc We all got our choices to make :p

Well, not us. It would have had to make it through the FDA. Now it has to wait for us to figure out what our next government format will be, and that may need some violence...and that really gets in the way of shit like this.

@structuredsucc And sometimes you manage to push through with a lot of energy, and then you're already exhausted. And then people think you're purposefully "half assing" what you normally do well because you're being insolent or whatever.
@monsoonrains @structuredsucc I found "if it's worth doing its worth half arsing" to help a lot with being gentle on myself.

@econads

I've found that helpful as well. That, and "imperfectly done is better than perfectly not started"

@structuredsucc that's also really good, hadn't heard that before
@monsoonrains Yeah >.< I think that some of that relates to this weird belief that cognitive work (thinking, planning, initiating tasks, etc.) doesn't count as real work somehow. When we put all that energy into a cognitive work task, it's just not counted a lot of the time in my experience
@structuredsucc like "oh, damn I never thought of that. I'll get right on it. If it hasn't worked out the last 40 years this year is unlikely to be any different. Give me strategies"
@structuredsucc Not only that but also many people for some reason wants ADHD so they can fake it to not be called lazy. This doesn't help at all to understand people who actually have ADHD. Literally there are videos which if you do some actions then you have it, alongside with Autism. People, mostly teens, are faking those to avoid work or show off that they are special, as they function differently than the rest. This needs to stop.

@monika_198

I disagree with your take here, and I have yet to be convinced that 'faking ADHD' is so prevalent as to be something I need to worry about.

@structuredsucc @monika_198

Given that even after generations it's STILL not possible to convince people in my own family I and my other afflicted family members are not just lazy, I guarantee anyone faking it is gonna get tired of the charade LONG before it actually pays off.

@violetmadder @structuredsucc I hope so because I got tired of disinformations and the wrong perspective they give.
@monika_198 @structuredsucc I detest the assumption that people are faking it. Just because theirs is different from you doesn't mean it isn't real.
@toisse @structuredsucc There are people out there who have never got diagnosted or they received a negative but they keep talking that they have, for their own reasons, just because they got checkmarks on a video which shows the traits. The same goes for mental disorders. I just said what I saw on the Internet, and it disgust me. Never spoke about myself or called an ADHD person lazy.
@monika_198 @structuredsucc a diagnosis is a privilege and sometimes other disorders can mask it. Doctors aren't perfect. Someone I know has the same symptoms as I do, I have a diagnosis and theirs was negative but they still suffer from it. They also have other disorders making diagnosis messy.

@monika_198

One of the first steps of figuring out things about yourself is often trying on the best possibility you have until a better one comes along. I try to give people grace and encouragement when they are trying to learn about themselves.

Of course, people can do harm in their process of trying on these answer or identities, but I don't think causing harm and taking on ADHD as a label without diagnosis are necessarily the same thing

@structuredsucc @vla22 i don't know if I have ADHD, I really don't. I hear some accounts of other effects and difficulties and think, no, I don't get that, but certainly *this*... has dominated my life. I even used the “If you can't take my executive dysfunction you don't get my hyperfocus" line at work, only partly in jest.

(yes, i get hyperfocus too.)

(I should get tested but... ugh, million things i should do and would rather do and yet i still…)

@StrangeNoises

To complicate things a bit, executive dysfunction isn't only related to ADHD, so it isn't diagnostic on its own. If you have access to get assessed by a professional you trust and who's going to listen and not judge, you can definitely learn a lot about yourself (and ADHD).

If it's going to be a costly endeavour, it wouldn't be a bad idea to start with a screening questionnaire. It isn't diagnostic on its own, but it can tell you if you're going in the right direction :)

@structuredsucc my fucking life. all the time.

shower? if only.