I'm not anti-AI. I'm just pro-thinking.
What do I mean? I mean that everyone I know who is REALLY into AI uses it for reading EVERYTHING longer than 1000 words.
This is the mental equivalent of eating only smoothies, because they go down easier.
I say this with love: reading is thinking.
Stop letting slop think for you.
Using machines to do your critical thinking isn't their strong suit and should be resisted and rejected.
@mrclon I use scrolling for that :)
Also I think the ability to skim over large texts is quite important skill so I try to preserve it.
@shuro same, but sometimes it piss me off and i wat LLM to do it for me (and fucking mecha to kill retards who make such texts)
@mrclon I really do suspect you just hate writing in general, no matter how you're interacting with it. Your comment is barely literate.
Also, mature adults do not use that word the way you have. And don't pretend you don't know what I mean.
@shuro Indeed.
Learning how to quickly separate the important things from that already known is ... a very central thinking skill.
@shuro It is a skill because your brain will spot and stop at key words, plus an unused brain is like any muscle, it will deteriorate.
It will be interesting to note a rise in early dementia cases in about 20 years.
@mrclon How do you know it's unnecessarily long if you didn't read it?
I think it's probably not coincidence that people who are resistant to reading are also not very good at writing.
@mrclon Your writing is barely coherent. I'm not buying your story. I don't believe your read much of anything of any quality, ever, or ever have. I think you're just lazy, and making half-assed (and barely coherent) excuses.
And I don't really care, either. I'm not trying to 'win' anything. I'm trying to give you a chance to gain some self-awareness, and maybe improve. But that's up to you. I don't have to live your life, you do.
@wesdym looks more like you blowing up you own ego. Grown up, find healthier way to rise self-esteem. Dude, i was there when i was 16 - 20yo, you sound smart and cool only in your head.
Anyway, i have only one life, and i won't waste it on hundredth time reading about what containers is and why low overhead better than high overhead in every single one article about Docker. Or brainfart of some snobbish kid on fedi. So God bless block button
@raiderrobert I use LLMs every day and still read everything where it's appropriate.
One issue here is that we've been promoting long form content in the last 2 decades for SEO and attention hoarding so people's desire for shorter content is a natural correction for this.
The idea that AI distillation is a reaction to padded out blog posts is an interesting point. I can absolutely believe it.
"Why do people use AI to summarize my youtube video transcript?" Possibly because the how-to video is four sentences padded out to 10 minutes of talking.
LLM output is just as superficial as the SEO-bloated text was.
It's just shorter.
So, it's like you take your medicine, and you thin it with water. And then you throw away nine tenths of it.
That's homeopathy, for ideas.
It's stupid and harmful.
@androcat @wraptile @raiderrobert I love that analogy: LLMs are “homeopathy for ideas.”
I think that machine learning is an incredibly powerful tool, just like other kinds of statistical analysis. It’s just currently being hyped beyond the moon for wildly inappropriate uses.
Specifically, using LLMs to summarize text that was deliberately bloated is the homeopathy bit.
LLMs themselves I tend to call Fermented Statistics, but the scholarly term "stochastic parrots" is also very good.
@wraptile Yeah, I'm sure it's not because it's default human nature to take every opportunity to be lazy. Look around you. I think you know better.
I've met people who don't how to open their own car with their own key, because they've never NEEDED to know.
Humans are instinctively lazy. That's true in almost every situation can think of.
@fuchsiii @raiderrobert @GreenSkyOverMe Personally I only know two kibds of people who do these #yfood skaes:
1. fitness freaks who have zero taste ib antitranspirant (#axe) and only care about the label
2. people with either sebere eating diorders or overly stuffed schedules that can't manage to get a dietarily well bamanced meal done/eaten.
@raiderrobert Foster saw those people coming a century ago...
"Beware of first-hand ideas!" exclaimed one of the most advanced of them. "First-hand ideas do not really exist. They are but the physical impressions produced by love and fear, and on this gross foundation who could erect a philosophy? Let your ideas be second-hand, and if possible tenth-hand, for then they will be far removed from that disturbing element—direct observation.
—The Machine Stops, by E.M. Forster, 1909
@raiderrobert Reading this, thinking, I would say you actually are anti-AI.
You are, aren't you?
Ask today's students how long a text can be that they can read and recite orally.
The main problem today is how to stimulate independent thinking.
And yes, using AI/LLM for people in this situation is not excactly helpful.
@raiderrobert Imagine going to a 5-star restaurant, ordering the most exquisite thing on the menu, and then running it through a blender and slorping it down through a straw.
And they do that to everything.
@androcat bonus points for slorping
I haven't heard that word in a minute
@raiderrobert Why would anyone externalise their personal development to a machine?
Machines should help you make better stuff, not replace your thinking.
Exactly!
@raiderrobert i recently started going back to manuals/books and was surprised by what I was missing.
A. manuals document things precisely, unlike google search results where the competency of the author could be anywhere from 0 to 10000
B. manuals don't have dark UX patterns and distractions that I have to wade through
C. as you read relevant sections of manuals you gain a lot of surrounding knowledge around the topics you read which helps in the long run
@raiderrobert To me, it is the same line of thinking when it comes to mathematics. "When am I ever going to need to know this? I can just use my calculator."
The calculator is a tool to help, not a replacement for the fundamental understanding of the subject matter.
Reading and, in turn learning, is too tedious a task these days.
@raiderrobert yeah but what about this ad from Apple about how AI can do college for you?
https://youtu.be/dl-po6sw55E?si=AU59sewX8dm1WH0D
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