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The revolution will not happen on the platforms owned by the oppressors.
David Palk#RejoinEU 💖🇪🇺🕊🌈@Em0nM4stodon true.
Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons@Em0nM4stodon Though it would be really poetic if it did...
Chris Wolff a.k.a. Shoe Bill@Em0nM4stodon
I've actually thought about this one. Let's say the goal is to get people to move from corporate social media to the Fediverse. Awesome. I would agree; I think that's a great goal to have. How are we supposed to spread the word without using the same platforms these people are already using? I'm not trying to be inflammatory here; I'm actually asking. I saw it with the (admittedly, very brief) TikTok ban. In the days leading up to the ban, people who were already on TikTok found out about the Fediverse, and posted on TikTok about it. I would've been that guy if I'd already had a TikTok account, and I did not. Looking back on it now, I feel like I should've made an account over there myself just to help get the word out, and I didn't do that either.
I've actually thought about this one. Let's say the goal is to get people to move from corporate social media to the Fediverse. Awesome. I would agree; I think that's a great goal to have. How are we supposed to spread the word without using the same platforms these people are already using? I'm not trying to be inflammatory here; I'm actually asking. I saw it with the (admittedly, very brief) TikTok ban. In the days leading up to the ban, people who were already on TikTok found out about the Fediverse, and posted on TikTok about it. I would've been that guy if I'd already had a TikTok account, and I did not. Looking back on it now, I feel like I should've made an account over there myself just to help get the word out, and I didn't do that either.
Cassandrich@christian_freiherr_von_wolff @Em0nM4stodon That's different than trying to make your revolution happen there. It's opportunistic and with an understanding that you're seizing specific opportunities where there's a gap in their defenses, with no pretense that sustained activity there won't be met with bans or algorithmic shadowbans.
@christian_freiherr_von_wolff @Em0nM4stodon I think the warning that the revolution won't take place on their platforms is not a call for a boycott on principle but a call to avoid compromising yourself spending all your time trying to be heard and make a difference on a platform operated with the intent to prevent that.
John Deters@christian_freiherr_von_wolff @Em0nM4stodon IIRC once Twitter turned Xhittier they banned links in profiles to Mastodon IDs, joinmastodon, etc. They will not let you use their platform against them.
I was going to point out that was both authoritarian and corporate of them, but then realized that's the exact dictionary definition of fascism.
Evelyn Estelle@Em0nM4stodon Is this our age's version of "the revolution will not be televised"?
lolcatThanks for the Gil Scott-Herron shout out. Catch him in his season 1 SNL performance here:
"Johannesburg" 12:46
"A Lovely Day" 1:02:11
Season 1 of SNL is yet more evidence that civilization peaked in the 1970s.
Saturday Night Live S1E07 Richard Pryor & Gil Scott Heron : NBC : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The host for the episode is Richard Pryor, and the musical guest is Gil Scott-Heron. The skits for this episode are as follows: Garrett Morris tricks Chevy...
Leon Miller
Joachim Séné@Em0nM4stodon except the fascist revolution currently growing on a particular platform
Anna@Em0nM4stodon
A great man once said, "I am condemned to used to tools of my enemy to defeat them." (if you know, you know).
Use their platforms until they destroy it themselves.
A great man once said, "I am condemned to used to tools of my enemy to defeat them." (if you know, you know).
Use their platforms until they destroy it themselves.
Audun@Em0nM4stodon creating our own platforms is part of the revolution
terra (trans as in transgressive)@Em0nM4stodon i agree because the revolution will happen in the streets not in cyberspace 😊
John Timaeus
Revolution Is Not An AOL Keyword
Chad McCullough
Chris RealI would go further and say that the revolution will not happen online, and any mention of it will be scrubbed by AI.
Every good anarchist should read David Graeber's "Lost People: Magic and the Legacy of Slavery in Madagascar", where he describes the functioning anarchist culture on the island, and the shadow government that pretends that they rule, but actually don't.
If you want to see a DRAMATIC revolution, watch a movie.
scottymarinara@_chris_real @Em0nM4stodon yesss!!!!n rojava and the zapatistas are good examples of anarchist adjacent polities existing now true story:in 2013 during the raqqa campaign in rojava i almost ran off to join them where id absolutely have died! like 50 people from the sf bay area ended up going! its a fascinating tale that is waay too much text for mastodon lol
Erik Uden 🚩@Em0nM4stodon banger eugen rochko boost
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JKN@Em0nM4stodon
The only thing people hate more than the way things are, is change.
The only thing people hate more than the way things are, is change.
jack
william.maggos@rabble ends his podcast with a line from Subcomandante Marcos (EZLN) that we're going to need a revolution in social media to make revolution possible. I think that's it. I'd love more info on where that's from.
babble encat@Em0nM4stodon gently begging all the orgs in my town to stand up any kind of web presence and anything that puts out iCal ics files so that I can attend their events as a non-Facebooker
even a public Google calendar is a huge step up because you can see those while logged out
ety://glyphscribe@babble_endanger @Em0nM4stodon When I moved here, I was so excited to discover that every public-facing department in my town offers ics urls.
This should be standard. I love it.
Devorppa
Gerard Cunningham ✒️The revolution will be samizdat
gkrnours@Em0nM4stodon in a way, sure. On the other, if you want a revolution, you probably want people to join so you need them to hear your message so you talk about LA 24/7 "music festival" which is a code name for the manifestation against ICE
Che GNUevara@Em0nM4stodon or on computers surveilled and controlled by the oppressors
Ramoc Al Nasip@Em0nM4stodon The revolution will not happen on any platform because there are no revolutionaries left.
BenBE@Em0nM4stodon The revolution will not be televised!
Julien Deswaef@Em0nM4stodon or as Audrey Lorde would say: "the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house"
Sun Kitty ☀️@Em0nM4stodon damn straight! Let’s co create. 🍁 Imagine a co-owned video network for people not platforms!
@atomicpoet is working on #PeerTube #cooperative meanwhile I am going full speed ahead with #FediCollective to bring devs and creatives together in Vancouver to build the #openweb the ethical and inclusive way in our #ThirdSpace over coffee and cowork!
Find enclosed this digital sovereignty mini manifesto for our collab https://www.linkedin.com/posts/xinageco_openweb-peertube-fedicollective-activity-7366137428400615424-VLOP
Brewing the Video Web: A Co-op Manifesto | Crissy Tish Addams 🖤
Imagine all the good we can do with #PeerTube cooperative. Christopher Trottier makes #fediverse video-sharing affordable. 🔺 More details + RSVP in article. ☺️ Thanks for the likes and shares which help us grow this #DigitalSovereignty mission 🇨🇦 #OpenWeb! 🌀 #DWeb #fedi #brewbuild #ThirdSpace #CoffeeWithCrissy
Michael Potter@Em0nM4stodon I've been pondering this a lot lately. In many ways, software solutions are just the tip of the iceberg.
The base of all digital systems is physical rack space, limited by leasing costs. Then there's power and network requirements (preferably redundant), also dominated by the same investor class.
The stumbling block seems to be high real estate costs, and I wonder what the best way past that can be.
michiel@mpotter @Em0nM4stodon apologies for the evangelism, but are you familiar with Henry George, the 19th century American who framed a social revolution in terms of real estate prices? #georgism #geoism #landvaluetax
@michiel @Em0nM4stodon I hadn't heard of him, but I looked him up and I think he made the point pretty well that poverty is caused by monopolies on land.
Cyber real estate is a similar sort of race for resources and control.
@mpotter thanks for taking the time. It's my belief that George's thinking about public interest vs monopoly ownership is a powerful tool for analyzing digital rent extraction, housing crises, and environmental problems, so I'm trying to spread awareness where I can.
Theles@Em0nM4stodon Remember Arab Springs and everyone were gushing about the "power of Social Media"
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Mentioned it before, but:
The revolution is not an AOL keyword.