KayeAdopt the Juicero or be left behind. A vital shift is underway in juicing. The Juicero is no longer optional. It's tomorrow's future, today. 40% of jobs are impacted by the Juicero. The Juicero isn't the future, it's a present necessity. Nobody hand-juices anymore. To hand-juice is like an impairment. Everyone must now focus on the delegation and the verification of a juice. We become less juice producers and more juice enablers. Adopt the Juicero or be left behind. We are burning every forest and poisoning every river to produce more Juiceros. You will become obsolete if you don't get on the Juicero bandwagon. Students must not be taught how to hand-juice. 80% of jobs will be lost to the Juicero. Students must be taught to exclusively focus on how to collaborate with the Juicero. Education must focus on orchestrating agentic Juicero systems. The Juicero is inevitable. Adopt the Juicero or be left behind. Adapt or risk becoming obsolete. As the Juicero rapidly advances toward automating up to 90% of juicing, the skills that will matter most include juice design, Juicero fluency, juice delegation, and juice quality assurance. 110% of jobs have been replaced by the Juicero.
(Context: The Juicero was a very expensive machine that came with a DRM lock and could almost perform a simple task some of the time. It's a useful key to understanding Silicon Valley madness.)
Andrew Zonenberg@kaye the juicero was expensive and drm locked but my understanding is that at its core, it in fact *was* a very good juicer.
Unlike LLMs.
Maverynthia🌱I mean if not juicing anything makes it a good juicer. (It just squeezed DRM capri sun-like pouches)
@Maverynthia @kaye the point is that there is a useful, though expensive, machine inside all the enshittification of a juicero.
LLMs don't even have that. There's no way to jailbreak one to make it useful.
Claudius@azonenberg @Maverynthia @kaye from reviews I read at the time, you could squeeze more out of a bag after the machine was done. That was, because it pressed two plates together flat.
It was not effective.
It was also extremely expensive (machine and refill packs both) and slow.
It was not efficient.
No, it was not a *good* juicer.
It's funny that the worst juicer *still* outperforms LLMs in terms of "it does what you ask it to", though 🤣
morph@claudius @azonenberg @Maverynthia @kaye well it wasn’t a juicer in any sense of the word, was it? The juice was made in a factory, the Juicero was just a pouch squeezer (and, as you say, not a good one). It absolutely couldn’t juice any fresh fruit
@morph @claudius @Maverynthia @kaye Huh.
I thought the pouches contained chopped (not like pureed) fruit, and that it could hypothetically juice anything you could get into a suitably shaped plastic bag if you got around the DRM lock.
@azonenberg @morph @Maverynthia @kaye cnet called them "prepulped": https://www.cnet.com/culture/juicero-is-still-the-greatest-example-of-silicon-valley-stupidity/
Also here's someone on youtube cutting open a bag:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bojSloU93k
@azonenberg @morph @Maverynthia @kaye Here, Bloomberg did a "side by side" comparison of just squeezing a bag with your bare hands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lutHF5HhVA
God, I Love this thing. It's _so_ stupid :-D
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@claudius @morph @Maverynthia @kaye TIL. lol.
All this time I had thought it was just a DRM'd juicer and apparently they couldn't even get that part right.
@azonenberg @morph @Maverynthia @kaye here's how well the thing worked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uMPymBFq6w
This Juicer Is Everything That’s Wrong With The World (Or At Least Silicon Valley) | Fast Company
@azonenberg @morph @Maverynthia @kaye someone at the time did a full teardown, and the quality of parts inside was pretty good. Machined metal gears and stuff. I believe Juicero genuinely wanted to make a "good" device. It was outrageously expensive, but not in a scammy way. Just in a "we took this in a ridiculous direction and just kept going" way.
@claudius @morph @Maverynthia @kaye Yeah that was the original impression I had.
I thought the idea was "let's take whole fruits and veggies, chop big stuff into few-cm pieces if they're too big to fit in a flat pouch, slap some DRM around it, and charge obscene prices a la printer ink".
And make a no-holds-barred high quality juicer that relied on locking you into their supply chain, but could hypothetically have juiced anything you wanted if it wasn't enshittified.
That's the classic bay area "take something that worked perfectly fine, throw a bunch of VC money at it, wrap it up in DRM, and sell it as a better alternative" model.
Not sure what the point of prechopping the stuff was.
Damon L. Wakes@claudius @azonenberg The contents of the bag are incredible - essentially 90% of the way to being juice already. I was also under the impression that it was at least pressing diced fruit pieces.