@ekari @cypnk
having used most of them (I missed Snowball/Icon some how?), I'd have to agree. Tho' i have some lingering affection for APL/J and FORTH, I'm not /doing/ anything with _them_.

Readable literate Perl is at least possible (and is required in the surviving large Perl shops).

@BRicker @cypnk I must clarify that I haven't written a line of Perl in 20+ years. But I do remember, that it always felt easier to start from scratch than to decipher something already written. TIMTOWTDI wasn't great.

With Python everything became simpler.

@ekari @cypnk

Yes, those of us still in #Perl world are those who valued TIMTOWTDI.

20 years ago, there was indeed a lot of Perl that wasn't very extensible.
Things have changed (in part because the people writing bad Perl left).

@BRicker @cypnk Ouch, I took a hit! 😅

Hmm. Maybe I should take a peek at a modern Perl project. Any suggestions?

@ekari @BRicker @cypnk I’ll toot my own horn at this point. My current sysadmin utility, built on a whole set of my other crimes. Classes all the way down.

https://code.quatermass.co.uk/toolsmith/perl-App-IPSetMgr