Windows 11: You need TPM 2.0 to get security updates.

Me: fine, here you go

Win11: Please reboot to install updates!

Me: ok

Win11: I WILL NEVER BOOT AGAIN AND I WILL NOT ENTER SAFE MODE AND I WILL NOT LET YOU SEE THE ERROR LOG

@mwl

Meanwhile…

FreeBSD: You need a processor, preferably something made in the last two decades with 1GB of RAM (although more is better)

OpenBSD: You need a processor, preferably made sometime since the turn of the century and maybe 256MB of RAM (although more is better)

NetBSD: You've got a dead badger you found on the roadside and have attached it to a dodgy 220V power-source? Sure, we'll run on that.

@gumnos @mwl the turn of the century is just to make sure you can run a browser, not to boot the kernel, right?
@gumnos @mwl FreeDOS: A computer might be optional, depending on how you define computer...
@howtophil @gumnos @mwl CP/M: I can execute the machine code in my head, and more reliably than the surviving hardware it was supposed to run on.

@gumnos @mwl It's for linux, but relevant article.

And I have a copy of NetBSD running on an old 40MHz Sparc32 lunchbox with 64MB of RAM that I keep under my desk for when I need to talk to 3.5" floppies. (The most annoying part was how excruciatingly slow net-booting the installer is; the bootloader re-downloads the entire kernel image over excruciatingly slow TFTP 3-4 times for some reason, rather than buffering it in RAM. The actual netinstall takes a fraction of that time)

Installing Linux on a Dead Badger: User's Notes

Place badger in center of fireproof surface, making sure ventilation is adequate and all doors are locked.

Strange Horizons
@becomethewaifu @gumnos @mwl I should dig out my indy or a sparc box and give netbsd a try.
@dtl ...Now I'm tempted to see if I can get it running on the indigo2 on my shelf... That's currently not running because I had to borrow the RAM to get the sparcstation to work (The stuff it had in it when I bought it was "basically junk" levels of failing memtest) but currently has IRIX sitting on the drive ready to boot as soon as I put the RAM back in.
@becomethewaifu it has been at least a decade since the indy booted. It was my mail server for a while. Probably still has a lot of old email on it.
@becomethewaifu @gumnos @mwl Linux dropped support for badgers in version 6.6.6 tho.
@gumnos @mwl i run openbsd on a machine with 32mb of ram
@wyatt @mwl @gumnos I run #NetBSD on a 486slc with 16MB.
#UserFriendly #GeekWars
@ltning @mwl @gumnos does that work? Was pretty sure openbsd needed some Pentium instructions
@wyatt @mwl @gumnos Sorry meant NetBSD. Updated the post. :D
@gumnos @mwl sadly in a lot of cases it's now perhaps inevitably try and boot on dead badger discover it's not working, file a bug wait 9 months and get it closed by a vaguely related maintainer because the dead badger worked in 2003 and nobody has actually run tested it on real dead badgers since then or even knows how one works

@etchedpixels

it's all those modern dead badgers and the NDAs required to access the firmware. But if you happen to have a vintage dead-badger, you're good to go… 😛

@gumnos @etchedpixels No NetBSD for Talos II yet, and it's been about 6 years. No excuse there...
@etchedpixels @gumnos @mwl Yeah, we found out that the NeXT port was broken between NetBSD 5.2.something and 10.0 (fixed thanks to Izumi Tsutsui)...
@gumnos @mwl NetBSD summary has me in fits of giggles and laughter.. cause its so true.
@lilybryght @gumnos @mwl Now I want Stephen Colbert to do a Meanwhile intro that features an electrified roadkill carcass running NetBSD.

@gumnos @mwl something that's always amused me:

Linux: But can it run Linux?
NetBSD: Of course it runs NetBSD!

@gumnos @mwl

I have run FreeBSD with 2 x 2TB ZFS mirror with 512 MB RAM for years - and IMHO 256 MB is also fine for FreeBSD with ZFS with these two in /etc/sysctl.conf file:

# ZFS ARC MIN 32MB
vfs.zfs.arc.min=33554432

# ZFS ARC MAX 64MB
vfs.zfs.arc.max=67108864

With FreeBSD on UFS/SUJ 128MB will also be fine.

... and that 'last two decades' CPU limit is only for not-yet-released FreeBSD 15.x.

With FreeBSD 14 and older versions you need Pentium Pro or compatible - which means 1995 CPU - 3 decades.

... but yes - NetBSD will literally run on anything :D

@gumnos @mwl "hey I have this old toaster with a basic 555 circut in it, do you think we could get netbsd running on it"
"While you were busy asking that stupid question I got it running and installed links and was surfing hacker news"

@gumnos Ah, yes, the BadgerSystemDaemon.

@mwl