It's not political to think people shouldn't be starved to death.

@godpod
It *is* political.

Why is that such a bad word? Why is everyone so afraid of something being "political?"

The very concept of having a weekend is political. Having kids spend their childhoods learning and playing instead of toiling in a mine is political. Not having a goddamn feudal lord who owns you and the land you live and work on is political.

Rich, malicious assholes have spent an unfathomable amount of money and resources to poison the word "politics." That is also political.

@jargoggles @godpod @Brad_Rosenheim And I will always reference https://youtu.be/IRjuMYzHPjg?si=SmnKpxocAsbZUBzl at this point because everyone should automatically have Skin screening inside their head when they hear “don’t make it political”.
Yes It's Fucking Political (Live)

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@godpod
@jargoggles
it is political
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i don't think this directly addresses either of your questions, but wanted to add:
i think "political" is frequently misconstrued to mean disruptive to the status quo (read: current oppression and powers-that-be).

@jargoggles @godpod

people hate #politics

so there is a gateway to a word game:

smearing issues by calling them "#political"

playing on emotional association

a manipulation

example:

#mikeJohnson shut down #congress early. he feared a revolt in the #GOP over the #Trump #Epstein drama

did he admit that motivation?

"We're not going to play political games with this"

...Johnson said, playing a game

now we see what the word "political" is for:

deflection

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/22/mike-johnson-house-leaves-early-epstein/85323000007/

Speaker Mike Johnson to shut down House early amid Jeffrey Epstein drama

The House speaker announced that lawmakers would leave a day early for a five-week break from Washington as tensions soar over Epstein files.

USA TODAY

@benroyce @jargoggles @godpod

I reading a book called "Fight" the events leading to the 2024 election. A whole whack of politics with skillful and not-so-skillful players.

It's time for a new way.

@benroyce
Politics is a dirty game . Have you ever in your life been inspired to become a politicians?

@nuwagaba2

hell no!

i lack the psychopathy to play the game of smiling in people's faces and stabbing them in the back

and i lack the anger management

i'd just call them an idiot directly and then punch them in the face

i'd make a very poor politician

@benroyce @jargoggles @godpod
I agree with this, but two things can be true.
Starving people on purpose is bad, this should not be controversial.
Protecting child rapists and not protecting children is bad.
The idea of “it’s just politics” is often used to dismiss and deflect but we should call them out.

“If you’re going to do something evil, wrap it in something boring.” —John Oliver

@benroyce @godpod
A key component of fascism is the destruction of language as a means to communicate and understand each other. They assault words and phrases until they don't mean anything and then use them as weapons.

What does he mean by "political?" "Things I don't like."

Remember "fake news," which used to refer to stories that were literally made up and passed off as real news? What does that mean now? "Things I don't like."

In a more recent, particularly grotesque example, this is what they're doing with the word "anti-semite." There is a very important meaning to that word, but we can see in real-time how they're trying to strip it of any useful meaning. They're trying to change the meaning to "things I don't like."

The only thing a fascist values in a word is its capability as a blunt instrument.

@jargoggles @godpod
“It's not political to think people shouldn't be starved to death.”
I guess I understood the original message like
“If your idea of politics is, well maybe people should starve to death sometimes” then you’re a terrible evil person.

Yes I got your point that the word “political” has been commandeered and used to diminish and dismiss, and that political action is really how humans make progress. Got it. Great.

But you do realize that you are literally arguing over the words being used while bypassing the original point that people shouldn’t starve to death. And that people who justify why starving people is ok sometimes, aren’t arguing a valid view point in good faith. But sure let’s argue about what the word political means and not about the starving. Kind of ironic

@nekodojo @godpod
If saying "nobody should be starved to death" isn't a political statement, then what is the pathway to get there? It's simply aspirational, not practical.

If it *is* a political statement, it means that there is policy we can demand and push for to achieve those ends. It is a call to action.

@jargoggles Totally agree. Those accused of 'playing' politics, are usually the ones who respect the political role in all aspects. The accusers rarely understand politics, and seem to be in it only for money and influence...and appeasing donors who benefit from their ignorance.
@jargoggles @godpod Yep, what's crept in is the idea that the modern version of capitalism is just the way things are, and anything else is "political". A relatively minor example, but we regularly have politicians where I live label anyone that opposes road building on environmental / health grounds as "ideological".
@jargoggles
It's code for "I'm afraid you're going to put something above *me*"
@godpod
@jargoggles @godpod Yes. Politics is how humans make decisions in groups larger than two. (And sometimes only two.)
@jargoggles @godpod because for most people, political discussions either are clashes of irreconcilable visions of how the world ought to be or are composed of complex minutia that most people find boring or are ill-equipped to understand or discuss.

@jargoggles @godpod

What is an "unpolitical" thing?
If you don't define politics too narrowly:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tEpjiSVXzDo

Skunk Anansie - Yes It's Fucking Political

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@jargoggles @godpod And you can bet your last dollar THEY have no fear of political.