self-made skeletonJul 24

after like four years i'm starting to think about putting google services back on my phone. hmm

(mainly because there are some apps i'd like to have on me at all times nowadays)

but also, like, fuck google? i don't want to have constant data be collected from my phone activity. hrrhbhgh

Show threadself-made skeletonJul 24

part of what made me gut my phone and make it dumb as hell was i despised feeling like i was being spied on constantly. nowhere felt safe.

alternative is get another phone to put apps on, and have it so i can only use it while i'm connected to wifi. i dunno tho. that's not an elegant solution

Show threadself-made skeletonJul 24
(i hate apple more than i hate google, so no, i'll never use a single apple product)
Show threadKevin Karhan Jul 24

@machinesbleedtoo I'd touch neither.

Show threadRob LandleyJul 24
@kkarhan @machinesbleedtoo @GrapheneOS I'm out of the loop, but https://www.androidauthority.com/google-not-killing-aosp-3566882/ wasn't encouraging. (I didn't ask, not really my area...)
AOSP isn't dead, but Google just landed a huge blow to custom ROM developers

Google has confirmed it isn't discontinuing AOSP, but it's making a change that makes it harder for devs to build Android for Pixel phones.

Android Authority
Show threadKevin Karhan Jul 24

@landley @machinesbleedtoo @GrapheneOS yeah.

I consider the delay/non-public access to be a major dick move and hinderance.

Show threadself-made skeletonJul 24

@kkarhan @landley oof :(

i use lineageOS w/o google services, afaik it works fine if i choose to install google services and from a quick look it appears they have settings that *can* limit some of the problematic data flows. but with some apps its impossible, ofc

i wish more apps were developed to work independently of google/apple. but a surprising amount of apps still function w/o google services for me. like duolingo, but i can't do the mic related activities, presumably bc it uses a google service for that for e.g.

Show threadRob LandleyJul 24
@machinesbleedtoo @kkarhan Can you netflick? I'm almost certainly not using stock Android on whatever phone replaces this one, and I'm wondering if I'll need to get a dedicated wifi tablet to netflick if the phone has lineage or graphene or something. (Or big sd card and just load video on it myself, the motorola ones can still do that. AND cost less than $500 back before the Trump Tax.)
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@landley @kkarhan i don't have any streaming platform accounts so i cant check, sorry :c
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Show threadRob LandleyJul 24

@machinesbleedtoo @kkarhan There's some horrible DRM checking layer in proprietary android those things use to black out screen capture mode and refuse to run without, which is sometimes a problem with graphene and similar? But I think some things fake it so the player apps can still work? I haven't bothered to dig into it yet because I've stuck with the spyware versions out of laziness...

It's yet another thing where piracy has far better customer service than anything you pay for.

Show threadKevin Karhan Jul 24

@landley @machinesbleedtoo Yes, #Widevine and any other #DRM should be #outlawed, because it's intellectually insulting how trivial it is to circumvent shit like it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widevine

Widevine - Wikipedia