@djoerd @monew

> Did you know it block trackers inside Android apps

All it provides is a terrible implementation of DNS-based filtering. Contrary to the false marketing, it cannot stop privacy invasive behavior by apps It blocks a small portion of client side connections to domains not used for actual functionality. Vast majority of privacy invasive behavior remains and it's trivially bypassed. RethinkDNS is a better implementation usable everywhere, but DNS-based filtering is very limited.

@djoerd @monew

> and allows you to use a fake location

This is a standard Android feature called Mock Location.

> I can recommend a Fairphone with e/OS to prevent such events in the future.

The reality is that /e/OS is an extraordinarily insecure and non-private OS being marketed as something it's not. It does not provide people with the basic Android privacy/security patches and doesn't keep the basic security model intact. Murena even sells people already end-of-life devices.

@djoerd @monew

Here's information from the founder of DivestOS:

Issues with /e/OS: https://codeberg.org/divested-mobile/divestos-website/raw/commit/c7447de50bc8fadd20a30d4cbf1dcd8cf14805a0/static/misc/e.txt

ASB update history: https://web.archive.org/web/20241231003546/https://divestos.org/pages/patch_history

Chromium update history: https://web.archive.org/web/20250119212018/https://divestos.org/misc/ch-dates.txt

Chromium update summary: https://infosec.exchange/@divested/112815308307602739

Here's an article from a privacy and security expert (Mike Kuketz) which touches on various issues including severely delayed patches, user tracking in the update client and privacy invasive default connections:

https://kuketz-blog.de/e-datenschutzfr

@djoerd @monew Your claims are objectively false. /e/OS is absolutely engaging in extremely false marketing about privacy, security, updates, usability and compatibility. They've repeatedly spread misinformation about GrapheneOS and it's why we started posting about it.

/e/OS is not a safe option for anyone to use and does not offer a reasonable alternative to Apple or Google products. It is not more focused on regular people than GrapheneOS, contrary to their misleading claims about us.

@djoerd @monew /e/OS is certainly not on our side. They aren't in the same space as GrapheneOS in the first place but rather only pretend to be as part of their marketing. They've repeatedly engaged in attacks on GrapheneOS through spreading misinformation about it and making personal attacks on our team.

> Happy to try Graphene once it runs on ethical hardware like the Fairphone.

Fairphone devices do not meet our basic hardware security and update requirements. False marketing is not ethical.

@djoerd @monew Fairphone is directly participating in the false marketing by Murena for /e/OS. They present it as being far more private than it is and lead people to believe it isn't going to be using Google services and giving highly privileged access to them when it does.

Making baseless personal attacks on our team claiming we're delusional, paranoid, etc. has been repeatedly done by the founder of /e/OS and Murena. You're demonstrating how their community follows this lead.