“Invasion of privacy and illegal surveillance” are typically terms you associate with people and institutions of power. Not hackers outing hate groups. There is a distinct difference between “illegal surveillance” and shouting the names of self-proclaimed nazis and fascists to protect vulnerable populations from them.

It’s not “a side” that’s doing it, it’s people. Not institutions, not a government. It’s protection from those that would use actual illegal surveillance to target out-groups. Paradox of tolerance plays heavily in this scenario. People are all for protecting the innocent. But when people like you say, “well, wait a second now, these fascists deserve privacy too,” you play right into the natural evolution of fascism.

Naaah. You don’t get to change the rules to fit your agenda. It’s illegal regardless of who is doing it, what reasons it’s being done, or the method in which it’s done.

Stop the apologia and just admit that you believe you’re above the law because you’re the good guys-

… just like they do.

They can believe they’re the good guys and they are wrong.

Stop defending nazis

lol! Are the Nazis in the room with you? Blink twice if you’re in danger!

Listen- Not everyone that disagrees with you is a Nazi. Nothing I said was in any way in defense of Nazis and only an idiot would say so.

I simply said that you don’t get to justify illegal surveillance just because you don’t like the person on the other end of the line. REGARDLESS of who they are.

• MAGA wants to surveil the left because “dumb woke shit.”

• You all want to surveil MAGA/Nazis because “dumb Nazi shit”

BOTH instances are an invasion of privacy. And in many cases, both instances aren’t committing crimes worthy of surveillance.

It’s not illegal to be “woke” or whatever the fuck MAGA is calling people, and it’s not illegal to follow dumb Nazi shit. Therefore, NEITHER should be illegally survived.

It’s a pretty simple concept really. It just takes not having your head up your ass to understand it.

(I predict that the fact that I called out the right just as equally as the left will be overlooked and I’ll be flamed as if I did nothing short of proclaiming some dumb-assed fabricated bullshit that involves Nazi worship or some other smooth-brained rhetoric)

You are defending the Nazis from the Nazi fund raiser. You don’t want them to be exposed.

“Woke shit” and “Nazi shit” are not comparable.

You’re conflating “illegal” with “just” or “the right thing to do”. Those are two different attributes. Something can be legal and horrifying. Something can be illegal and just.

So this part:

It’s not illegal to be “woke” or whatever the fuck MAGA is calling people, and it’s not illegal to follow dumb Nazi shit. Therefore, NEITHER should be illegally survived.

Doesn’t work. It’s not a question of if it’s illegal. That is largely irrelevant. The proposed action of “we should find out who these Nazis are” may be illegal, but that’s irrelevant. Unimportant.

Nazis are a threat to everyone and should not be tolerated.

You’re giving very lawful-neutral vibes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you were lawful-evil.

You can make an argument that all laws should apply to everyone equally all the time, but that’s not how the world works right now, neither in practice nor theory, but you also should consider the “paradox of tolerance” problem. It is not a good idea to let Nazis just go around doing Nazi stuff.

You are defending the Nazis from the Nazi fund raiser. You don’t want them to be exposed.

Sorry bud, I stopped reading after this bullshit.

When you’re ready to grow up and actually discuss topics without falsely accusing people of stupid shit just to be part of the collective argument against reason-

I’ll entertain your responses.

Until then, go take a seat.

I don’t give fuck all about him. I’m debating the point about unlawful surveillance.

Pay attention.