Why are there so many german communities on Lemmy?

https://lemmy.world/post/33138820

Why are there so many german communities on Lemmy? - Lemmy.World

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Because there are many Germans on Lemmy.
Yes but why specifically german? Is the founder german?

Not sure what the core reason is, but Reddit also had a big German population.

I guess Germans are rather privacy focused so they might have been disproportionately migrating during the reddit exodus.

I guess Germans are rather privacy focused so they might

3rd Reich then east Germany gave Germany a hard lesson about privacy, so indeed they’re very sensitive to that topic

not that the government cares, they want to centralize most of the data of citizens now with pretty poor protections in a lot of cases. sads

Having the data is one thing, using data for genocide and oppression is whole different issue.

But despite all that history, Germans will blindly support Israel

not all of them will.
The guy who made Mastodon is German, so maybe that was a fediverse on-ramp.
At least one of the two Lemmy maintainers is also German or at least a native speaker as far as I know.
Two reasons, Germans are very privacy focused and at the same time pretty tech affine. Also, sprich Deutsch du Huso
Hallo
surprise germans 🫨
Nobody expects the German inquisition,!
i may or may not be german as well 🫣
Finde ich richtig gut, ja
Des heißt servus, zefix!
But what if a lot of them are Austrians in disguise!

G U T E N T A G

Dabei bin ich nichmal Deutsch

.world is hosted on Dutch servers, and the Netherlands are adjacent to Germany?
interestingly, most commenters here don’t seem to be on .world 🤔
I’m only on world because lemm.ee got shut down for whatever reason

lemm.ee got shut down for whatever reason

Because the admin was burnt out and WA’s unable to find help.

Can confirm, I’m instinctively drawn to servers in my geographic proximity despite that being a completely opaque property of the internet like a moth to a flame
I thought it was Finland
I MIGHT be misrembering. Shortly after Luigi Mangione was wrongly accused of having done nothing, admins said they would be removing any content that glorified violence and were required to do so under Dutch law.
I’m going off of the IP tracing
Well, that’s compelling. Why not just lead with that?
Whois lemmy.world

Whois Lookup for lemmy.world

Not to take all the credit, but a factor might be that I, as the top mod of the second largest German Subreddit, promoted Lemmy heavily to the point where the admins banned me “for breaking reddit”.
That’s pretty funny and if I were in that German subreddit I would probably have migrated out of solidarity
That's some damn fine work, sir.
you deserve a trophy 🏆 🥰
I wouldn’t go that far :D I just really enjoyed throwing a wrench into reddit’s gears after they killed 3rd party apps.
you made us proud!
Du machst das sehr gut. Ich bin stolz auf dich!
Danke, das weiß ich zu schätzen 🙏
Thank you for your service o7
Every day act of heroism. Thank you!!!
A huge group moved from ich iel subreddit (meirl but almost like 196 in practice)… most german redditors were there. The main German instance was called feddit.de but the frontend and database got very messed up. The main admin was MIA so feddit.org was made instead.

feddit.org

That's a Zionist server

oh, is it? 👀
  • there are many germans on reddit
  • germans tend to be more privacy aware in my opinion
  • and I also think Germany has a large and very dedicated open source community.
  • then there are just many german speaking people. lemmy is popular in the west and together with austria and switzerland (and some other areas) you have almost 100 million native speakers.

They failed to take over the world using violence, so now they are secretly taking over peacefully using some open source code.

Prepare to be assimulated, resistance is futile.

Oh no! Gently places gun ground We fought the good fight. I surrender.

To give a more serious answer:

  • Germans are a bit more privacy focused than most other nations (if you want to know how much read up on the google street view controversy). Germans tend to be much more aware how Meta/Google,etc. abuse their data (and while the average German won’t care there are enough of them that you actually note it)

  • There is a very strong “antiITestablishment” subculture that is very active since the 80ies. The Chaos Computer Club and its congresses,etc. but also the recent trend toward digital sovereignty has increased the amount of people who see Reddit and (to a much much larger extent) Twitter in a critical light - and due to the close links of Mastodon to Lemmy that helps both.

  • German speaking people, especially in the,on Lemmy, overrepresented Tech field tend to understand English fairly well (but underestimate their ability to speak it themselves often). That enables them to consume English speaking content as well, not forcing them into other media formats that do cater more for smaller languages.

  • And let’s face it: There are a freaking lot of German speaking people. Around 100 Million people speak German in Europe - and while that of course is nothing compared to other India or China it’s the largest non-english language block in Europe. That gives one a large enough “crowd” to actually find an audience for a sub - while it’s rather hard to get enough people for an Italian speaking niche sub it’s far easier to do so if it’s German speaking.

  • There are also some cultural issues at play - to quote an old German saying that says: “Three Germans meet - they found an association (Verein)”. Germans tend to self-organise extremely proactively. Which is often tiresome, believe me. Additionally some Germans tend to find the Americocentrism on Reddit, but also to a lesser degree, on Lemmy, boring and at times nerve wrecking.

  • There is a big IT industry that is focused on mid size companies - some with a strong open source mindset.

  • Lastly the German main instance, Fediverse.org is operated by a pretty robust foundation who knows what it is doing. Which of course keeps the community more stable and hosts a lot of European (non German) subs as well.

Source: Am German, lived abroad for quite some time.

Yes, I am fully aware this question wasn’t totally serious.

No, contrary to common believe we don’t have to go to the basement to laugh. Germans go to the basement for sauerkraut and to watch German dungeon porn, Swiss to clean their bunkers and Austrians,well, I’d rather not talk about that.

Und nun iss dein Schnitzel sonst gibt es keinen Nachtisch!

Scrubs: Elliot speaking german

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Can you elaborate on the self organizing thing? I don’t think I have a strong intuition on what you mean.

Germans have a tendency to associate in a formal association (called Verein). From sports clubs (often even the smallest rural villages have multiple), allotment plot gardening, hiking, environmental protection, neighbourhood based one, as parental associations, cars owners, professional ones to old folks and widows, etc. etc. These are all registered with the local court (e.V.), have a formal operations charter,etc.

As people tend to be multiple clubs/associations there are far more club members than people in Germany. Germany holds the world record in that regard since 1945. (Personally I am a member of…12 I think. Maybe more. Car, School of the kiddos, sports, sports of the kiddos, a few very niche professional ones, environmental ones, a local food one,etc.)

This tendency to formalize things also sometimes is visible online in terms of subcommunity formation.

Thanks! This sounds like community building to me. The peer pressure seems to be a double edged sword. I can see how it might become burdensome in some cases.

Yes and no. The zealousness of Germans to stick to rules but also to create rules is the issue.

Just a few mid 50 friends kicking a ball once a week in a public park to stay fit and have an excuse for a beer afterwards? Nope, that’s regular use, join a club, get into a 50+ team and kick there, but don’t forget that you need a player pass, pay club fees and often have to do 24 work hours per year.

Or even worse: Allotment gardening. Heavily regulated in most clubs by a few boomers (think HOA2.0) that will cite you for fallen leaves. And if you have the wrong type of hedge in your garden. Or if it’s to high. They will then mandate that you cut it. Which you aren’t allowed from March to October due to environmental protection laws. And of course if you sleep more than one (or two) nights in your garden it’s also forbidden. And beware if they find another salad in that part of your patch,that one is only for flowers. (It’s so bad that it is a meme in Germany)

There is a German word for all that, of course: “Blockwartsyndrom”. A Blockwart(officially Blockleiter)was the lowest position with (very little) power during the Nazi times - they were literally responsible for a building block (around 40-60 flat). They were the ones who spied on their neighbours, organised the Volkssturm later on(aka sending poor kids and old folks to their death) and generally pestered their neighbours. Blockwartsyndrom simply means: Give a little man a little power and he will everyone’s life hell.

Well there are some pros in case of your buddy’s meeting once a week to play some ball. If they found a Verein, they can get a metro card and go shopping there. They can get a bank account for common costs, to gather money for a trip, to buy new equipment. Maybe some tax stuff? Don’t really know but sounds like there have to be taxes involved somehow. And they get to found a Verein.