WeTransfer just changed their ToS to allow them to train AI on any files you transfer through them.

Don't use there service, especially for work that you don't have the right to relicense to them (e.g., commercial work that's exactly the most likely to create the huge files WeTransfer specializes in).

(ETA: this is already going boom so I'm muting it.)

https://wetransfer.com/explore/legal/terms

WeTransfer - Send Large Files & Share Photos Online - Up to 2GB Free

WeTransfer is the simplest way to send your files around the world

WeTransfer - Send Large Files & Share Photos Online - Up to 2GB Free
@mwl FYI you can selfhost this kind service by using PsiTransfer
https://github.com/psi-4ward/psitransfer
GitHub - psi-4ward/psitransfer: Simple open source self-hosted file sharing solution.

Simple open source self-hosted file sharing solution. - GitHub - psi-4ward/psitransfer: Simple open source self-hosted file sharing solution.

GitHub

@spectral_shadow @mwl

Just use Send, the continuation of Firefox Send

https://send.vis.ee/

Send

Encrypt and send files with a link that automatically expires to ensure your important documents don’t stay online forever.

@mwl zip file with password?

@utf_7 @mwl Zip bomb with its own ToS?

Edit: Do not do this. It is unlikely work and if it does they can afford more lawyers than you can.

@noodle @mwl uh, that is even better
@mwl There is better option called pCloud Transfer: https://transfer.pcloud.com/
Send large files up to 5GB for free

With pCloud Transfer you can send large files to anyone, no registration needed!

pCloud Transfer
@rejzor @mwl
Yes I can confirm that.
@rejzor I would not use this because of point 7. https://transfer.pcloud.com/privacy.html
@mwl
Send and download large files, no registration needed

With pCloud Transfer you can download large files without registration for free! You can also send your own files to your colleagues and friends.

pCloud Transfer

@Morpurgo @mwl That's because they have servers in US (Texas) and EU (Germany). As new user you can pick which ones you want to use, before this they defaulted to US and you could later migrate to EU for a small fee.

At least that is applicable for their account storage, can't say what's the default for pCloud Transfer.

pCloud AG is a Swiss company otherwise.

@mwl
Offering alternatives in posts like this is always a good idea. Adding to the list already cumulating below this post: https://nowtransfer.de by @adminforge ! <3
NowTransfer.de

@nachthemd @mwl @adminforge Expanding the list with some nice end2end encrypted services:
https://switching.software/replace/wetransfer/
Bye, WeTransfer

Recommended File Sharing:

switching.software

@mwl i use my #Nextcloud Instance. To Share any File with Full Control over it. Also i can create Dropoff Link if needed. So the Recipient of the Link can Upload the Files secure and directly to me.

In my company i see that some customers use #swisstransfer as alternative.

@Beleggrodion I'm also happy I set up a self-hosted NextCloud instance last month...

I used WeTransfer extensively in May-June with my interns, sharing with them various cuts of the Fediverse promo video.

Ugh I will for sure never use that site again

@mwl

@mwl i gave it up a long time ago because of the number of scammers who use the site
@mwl First it was "surveillance capitalism". Now it's "the kleptonet". Hide your wife! Hide your children! They stealing from everyone out here!
@mwl Het Noorse Filemail is een prima alternatief voor WeTransfer.
@mwl
👇
www.swisstransfer.com

@mwl

Gotta be kidding…

@mwl In case someone needs a tl;dr:

> You hereby grant us a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable, sub-licensable license to use your Content for the purposes of operating, developing, commercializing, and improving the Service or new technologies or services

> Such license includes the right to reproduce, distribute, modify, prepare derivative works based upon, broadcast, communicate to the public, publicly display, and perform Content.

Thanks for sharing the relevant quote from their terms of service. I was going to ask what kind of language one has to look out for because there's no "training", "LLM", or "artificial" to be found.

Wondering how many times I may have "accepted" terms like these already 😓

@oliver_schafeld here you go:
> including to improve performance of machine learning models that enhance our content moderation process, in accordance with the Privacy & Cookie Policy. Such license includes the right to reproduce, distribute, modify, prepare derivative works based upon, broadcast, communicate to the public, publicly display, and perform Content. You will not be entitled to compensation for any use of Content by us under these Terms.

The combination of those sections is alarming

@stealthradek thank you for sharing this!

It's puzzling how these actions can be legal in the EU. I wonder what the @EUCommission thinks about this?

@oliver_schafeld

@_elena @EUCommission @oliver_schafeld I do have a feeling that it's a perfectly fine legalese to cover any issues for host with no bad intent (that's my naive take on this), BUT it does unnecessarily open up if they want to pull some weird stuff later.
Terms of Service; Didn't Read

'I have read and agree to the Terms' is the biggest lie on the web. Together, we can fix that.

@stealthradek Could you provide a link to this? This is not from https://wetransfer.com/explore/legal/terms
WeTransfer - Send Large Files & Share Photos Online - Up to 2GB Free

WeTransfer is the simplest way to send your files around the world

WeTransfer - Send Large Files & Share Photos Online - Up to 2GB Free
@Chaos_99 I have used the link from OP and pasted the quotes from there.
WeTransfer - Send Large Files & Share Photos Online - Up to 2GB Free

WeTransfer is the simplest way to send your files around the world

WeTransfer - Send Large Files & Share Photos Online - Up to 2GB Free
@stealthradek @mwl Don't like the 2nd paragraph. What's a tl;dr:?

@llanciawn @mwl It's a internet term for cutting the garbage out and pointing straight to the core. I didn't wanted for folks to have to read the entire policy so I've extracted the juice and posted directly here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TL%3BDR

TL;DR - Wikipedia

@mwl Another alternative https://wormhole.app/

They do claim end to end encryption, so they should not be able to access your data. I have not validated this myself but have somewhat trust in the backing company.

Still if you are going to use a public file sharing service I would always make sure to add my own layer of security if and when it is needed.

Wormhole - Simple, private file sharing

Wormhole lets you share files with end-to-end encryption and a link that automatically expires.

Wormhole
@mwl can you recommend an alternative?
Tim Visée / send-instances · GitLab

A list of public Send instances. https://github.com/timvisee/send

GitLab
@mwl I use Send, which is a fork of Firefox Send.
Official instance: https://send.vis.ee
Other instances: https://github.com/timvisee/send-instances/
Send

Encrypt and send files with a link that automatically expires to ensure your important documents don’t stay online forever.

@mwl just use it to transfer large text books of your field of study from laptop to desktop!
@mwl @sandradejong I've recently switched to https://swisstransfer.com that seems to be a good alternative. It accepts larger files and you've got more time before the links expire.
SwissTransfer - Send large files securely and free of charge

Send up to 50 GB - Free and without registration - Keep your transfers for up to 30 days.

@JosKleverWebSupport @mwl @sandradejong I second that. I receive a few dozen transfer each week and all who are currently using WeTransfer are being recommended to use Swiss Transfer instead.
@mwl I think it's on 6.3 and 6.4 of the license (non USA version)
@mwl can anyone recommend good alternatives that don't abuse your data?
Tim Visée / send-instances · GitLab

A list of public Send instances. https://github.com/timvisee/send

GitLab

@alstonvicar @mwl I’ll toss mine in here https://wsend.net

I also wrote a wrapper to end-to-end encrypt your file with gpg

https://github.com/abemassry/wsend-gpg

@abemassry @mwl thank you very much! It's so good to know there are alternatives to selling your soul!
@mwl *only for improving moderation

@mwl
SEND is better for privacy ed everitingh else

https://gitlab.com/timvisee/send-instances

Tim Visée / send-instances · GitLab

A list of public Send instances. https://github.com/timvisee/send

GitLab

@mwl

Ah, WeTransfer the file-sharing transfer service! What an unexpected change in your ToS! And by unexpected, I mean, COMPLETELY EXPECTED!

You are probably wondering if there are any viable alternatives to file transferring services that don't rely on the use of artificial intelligence to steal data? Well, BEHOLD! MY WARPINATOR, AH HAHAHAHAHAHA! With it, I will be able to transfer files seamlessly from one device to the other on the same network without any delay!

https://f-droid.org/packages/slowscript.warpinator/

Warpinator for Android (unofficial) | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository

Share files across local network

@mwl very good to know for translators too, thanks. I've only ever received files that way, once or twice, never sent them but now I know not to in future.

@mwl
If you are a researcher* in the Netherlands and want to send large files, you can use SURFfilesender instead of #wetransfer.

Up to 2GB file size (and up to 1TB with HTML5 browsers) - for free!

Don't let your #researchdata end up as unauthorized AI training data, use #OpenSource based solutions instead.

*or anyone else with SURF access

@NilsArlinghaus @mwl Not only researchers. Maybe @SURF can respond with a more specific description of the group that has access to SURFfilesender. Many of them are not aware. With the latest news about #WeTransfer I think it's a good idea to tell/remind many about SURFfilesender again.

@steltenpower @mwl @SURF

Very good point. I've also updated my post.

@NilsArlinghaus @mwl

I used file.pizza yesterday to receive a 4.2gb file free of charge. Both sender / receiver's browsers must stay open as it is a direct connection, though.