myrmepropagandistWell, I suppose there are no Black people or trans people or lesbian fire chiefs in Texas, because... if there were any we'd know about them by now as the right would be blaming them for the flood.
FeralRobots@futurebird I did see, but didn't read, a story being shared about blaming a 'DEI hire' fire chief for those summer camp deaths.
Well. I probably spoke too soon then.
@futurebird
I don't know how much traction it got. I think at least a lot of Texans know you can't first respond your way out of a flash flood. Also Abbot's 'teamwork' bullshit is meant to cover his ass, but it does provide at least some cover down the food chain.
I don't know how much traction it got. I think at least a lot of Texans know you can't first respond your way out of a flash flood. Also Abbot's 'teamwork' bullshit is meant to cover his ass, but it does provide at least some cover down the food chain.
arclight@FeralRobots @futurebird The Texas Department of Emergency Management has a daily weather call. They knew rains were going to be very heavy three days before the flooding. They communicated that to localities in a timely manner - what the localities did with that warning is on them.
There are a lot of questions that should be asked of Kerr County leadership over the past 20 years for their decisions to not implement an effective flood warning system and their response to TDEM's flood warning ("Let's just sit on this money because spending it would make Biden look good")
"Nobody could have predicted..." is bullshit. The responsible state organization predicted it and informed the counties giving them plenty of time to respond. Abbott is in full CYA mode running cover for Kerr County officials more interested in partisanship and power than running an effective government or saving Texans' lives.
okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin@arclight @FeralRobots @futurebird
Can't speak about Kerr County, but the mayor of Kerrville was asked if he was invited on that call or on that call and he answered "no, I was not" to both.
Can't speak about Kerr County, but the mayor of Kerrville was asked if he was invited on that call or on that call and he answered "no, I was not" to both.
@Okanogen @FeralRobots @futurebird It is reasonable to ask which officials knew what when and what they did with that information.
Also spending decisions for flood warning systems, especially when federal money was available. Did they take the opportunities they had to protect Texans and if not, why not?
@arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots
It's not just reasonable it's what needs to be done after every disaster. How could this have been prevented? What will we do differently?
If those aren't on the table then the public is being asked to accept that "these things happen and nothing can be done" and the scrambling from some of the leadership says they care more about this not "sticking" to them than fixing anything.
To me it's very slick and inspires no trust. It's not leadership.
Catherine is not complacent@futurebird @arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots it’s what they do every time.
“Oh this isn’t the time to talk about that, let’s pray and put up little cutout angels for the victims, it’s callous and hurtful to the families to bring that up now, no one could have seen this coming”.
Everything from natural disasters to school shootings, same old tired bullshit.
“Oh this isn’t the time to talk about that, let’s pray and put up little cutout angels for the victims, it’s callous and hurtful to the families to bring that up now, no one could have seen this coming”.
Everything from natural disasters to school shootings, same old tired bullshit.
@CatDragon @arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots
It's insulting to tell people not to be angry. I go with my 5th grade students to a camp, and this has been giving me nightmares.
At least I won't get as much push back about my insistence that they keep their phones phones on them. next year I think. (taking phones is just lazy, I yell at them to put them away and they *learn* to be polite with technology)
Cassandrich@futurebird @CatDragon @arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots In the world we live in, it's horrifying that teachers would even consider taking a child's phone away from them.
No matter how much of a distraction it may be.
It's less bad than the alternative of being trapped in what's developing into a hostage situation with no way to communicate information to the outside or stranded without medical care during a natural disaster or trapped under rubble.
Not to mention the much more mundane needs of documenting abuses by other kids or authorities.
@dalias @CatDragon @arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots
There is a mentality that "we didn't have phones so kids don't need them"
But those cabins probably didn't have party lines, or pay phones. The world isn't set up for people who don't have a phone on their person anymore so taking them away isn't like setting the clock back.
And frankly it's just safer when you can communicate if you need to.
@futurebird @CatDragon @arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots Even still, the "we didn't have..." mentality is survivorship bias bs.
Would they say "we didn't have seatbelts so kids don't need them"? Or "we didn't have polio vaccines so kids don't need them"??
Brian Campbell@dalias @futurebird @CatDragon @arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots I mean, there are a lot of people saying "we/our parents/our grandparents didn't have MMR/MMRV, so our kids shouldn't need them."
A lot of those people are in Texas. And their children are dying of measles.
@dalias @futurebird @CatDragon @arclight @Okanogen @FeralRobots with vaccines, the herd immunity also allows you to get a lot further with the survivorship bias before hitting problems; a few people skipping out on vaccines doesn't really increase the incidence of disease or death much at all, so people see "well, they skipped out on vaccines and their kids were fine", but once you hit critical mass of unvaccinated kids you get these outbreaks and deaths