#Fluke, #Gossen, and other manufacturers of high-end digital #multimeter should seriously consider piggybacking on #mobile phones.

That way, they can focus on their core competencies of multimeter frontend, protection circuitry, function generation, low-level signal processing, and so on., while leveraging the phone's high-level data processing, massive storage, AI coprocessor, graphics coprocessor, touch UI, large screen, customisability, programmability, and the like, not to mention the fact that every #EE pockets a mobile, these days.

These two devices can then interact via a high-bandwidth cable or near-field connection.

As a long-time user of traditional multimeters (I started on the Simpson 260 analogue VOM, before switching to a Fluke DMM), it sickens me to say that. But I do believe this trend is inevitable. Some might even argue that such a mode shift necessary and good.

@AmenZwa I just repaired my TDS220 scope from the 90s that is on permanent loan from a friend. I love it. That equivalent level of functionality should be cooked in at least.

I'm okay with a phone or pc app for advanced processing, but only if the interface protocol is entirely open source like the #thunderscope by @[email protected] for example.

I am not on board otherwise because that route leads to the landfill. See Lego mindstorm, Google chromebooks, etc.

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@AmenZwa @[email protected] I prefer all my equipment to have analog input and output. I'd prefer rs232 serial if any digital interface is required. Any more advanced digital interface will not stand the test of time.

@poleguy

I think you've highlighted the big problems with this "imagined" trend: protocol and usability.

I seriously doubt the manufacturers would open their communications protocol, because they want to control it and profit from it—like IBM did with the PS/2 Microchannel Architecture. This will, undoubtedly, diminish the utility of this enterprise.

And I have serious doubts about the touch interface being able to compete with the immediacy and the tactility of knobs, dials, sliders, switches, and buttons. (This latter point may just. be my age talking, but ....)

PS—Congrats on the 220 revival. It's a sweet little thing.

@aleksorsist

@AmenZwa what, there is no phone plug-in multimeter on the market? Quick, lets get a patent 🙂

@dimpase

We're too late, mate.🤣

https://youtu.be/YxyW_mttnQ0?si=pQbxprOjIVPiIBMI

So, the Fluke multimeter watch maybe fake, but I'm sure manufacturers are crawling toward that. The Fluke 233 has a remote display unit. Why not just connect to the phone, then.

eevBLAB 87 - Flake Multimeter Watch!

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@AmenZwa

and the many areas phones cant go in? atex ,high security??

@dekks Right! But I suppose if this disturbing trend does take hold, there’ll be scrubbed tablets in the SCIF. The other factor is that many design efforts don’t require the use of a SCIF, only those processes that touch sensitive data. I’m sure regulations and policies will catch up. But that’s still way doesn’t make this “touchy tablet” trend any less disturbing.🤷‍♂️

@AmenZwa

im surprised of the phone, i would get an android tablet but the phone is imo too small a screen.

@dekks Looking at this from the perspective of a typical user of Fluke (87V, 87V Max, 189, 289, etc.), a modern, large-screen mobile phone is a massive improvement, in terms of screen real estate, visibility, usability, etc. But they can't compare with much larger tablet screen, laptop screen, or desktop screen.

Assuming EEs are going to accept the multimeter frontend plus mobile device mode of use, most would opt for a large tablet, I think.

PS—These manufacturers should consider a monthly subscription model, you know, like BMW's seat warmer kind of business model: it costs $0.05 per measurement for 4.5-digit accuracy, and an extra $1.00 for higher accuracy.🤣